What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

by minimus 52 Replies latest jw friends

  • baldeagle
    baldeagle

    I concur with many here like OnTheWayOut, Sunworshipper805, and Magnum. For me it was cumulative and produced nagging doubts it was like, “What in blazes am I hearing from this WT study, public talk, assembly program etc.”

    The retooling of the “generation” teaching in 1995, 81 years after 1914 was a red flag. This was a benchmark teaching that many Witnesses used to make crucial life-altering decisions. It was simply torpedoed out of existence and replaced. My lingering doubts were now crystalized that the leaders of this religion were clearly fabricating their doctrines. As the years and decades marched on with no end in sight, they were using a piecemeal approach to make modifications.

    Regrettably, I remained active until the nonsensical teaching in 2010 that two groups of anointed from 1914, overlap to make up a continuous generation. I knew it was all a falsehood 15 years earlier, what was I thinking? Aside from the obvious fear of losing your entire family and social network in a heartbeat, something else is at play in the JW mindset.

    It’s what is called herd mentality. This is defined as, “The inability or refusal to listen to one's own instinct or 'gut feeling' but to instead follow the majority for fear of being wrong, ostracized or ridiculed.”

    While we are nurturing doubts, we feel guilty when we observe our fellow congregants and their apparent faithful lifestyle. We are surrounded by pioneers, elders, servants, CO’s and Bethelites etc. We go to large conventions and see literally thousands of people, many that we respect and admire that tirelessly soldier on in their JW activities. We wonder could all these families be duped and I’m right. On the other hand, could I be the one that is seeing things incorrectly?

    Therefore, the direct anxiety of being shunned along with the “herd mentality” literally causes many years or even decades to go by, before we can break free from the grip this religion has on people.

    The GB leadership whether today or 80 years ago has a lot to answer for; they have indeed ruined a countless number of lives of people who were mostly sincere and believed they were doing God’s will.

    #WhatAGullibleFoolIWas

    #INeedATimeMachine

  • baldeagle
    baldeagle

    I concur with many here like OnTheWayOut, Sunworshipper805, and Magnum. For me it was cumulative and produced nagging doubts it was like, “What in blazes am I hearing from this WT study, public talk, assembly program etc.”

    The retooling of the “generation” teaching in 1995, 81 years after 1914 was a red flag. This was a benchmark teaching that many Witnesses used to make crucial life-altering decisions. It was simply torpedoed out of existence and replaced. My lingering doubts were now crystalized that the leaders of this religion were clearly fabricating their doctrines. As the years and decades marched on with no end in sight, they were using a piecemeal approach to make modifications.

    Regrettably, I remained active until the nonsensical teaching in 2010 that two groups of anointed from 1914, overlap to make up a continuous generation. I knew it was all a falsehood 15 years earlier, what was I thinking? Aside from the obvious fear of losing your entire family and social network in a heartbeat, something else is at play in the JW mindset.

    It’s what is called herd mentality. This is defined as, “The inability or refusal to listen to one's own instinct or 'gut feeling' but to instead follow the majority for fear of being wrong, ostracized or ridiculed.”

    While we are nurturing doubts, we feel guilty when we observe our fellow congregants and their apparent faithful lifestyle. We are surrounded by pioneers, elders, servants, CO’s and Bethelites etc. We go to large conventions and see literally thousands of people, many that we respect and admire that tirelessly soldier on in their JW activities. We wonder could all these families be duped and I’m right. On the other hand, could I be the one that is seeing things incorrectly?

    Therefore, the direct anxiety of being shunned along with the “herd mentality” literally causes many years or even decades to go by, before we can break free from the grip this religion has on people.

    The GB leadership whether today or 80 years ago has a lot to answer for; they have indeed ruined a countless number of lives of people who were mostly sincere and believed they were doing God’s will.

    #WhatAGullibleFoolIWas

    #INeedATimeMachine

    Sorry for the double post.

  • flipper
    flipper

    Injustices committed against not only myself but other JW's inside the organization. And once I escaped the WT organization- seeing the injustices brought against child abuse victims and their families confirmed I made the right decision to leave several years later. There were several other things that helped me decide to leave- but the catalyst was injustices committed by elders in the cult

  • EverApostate
    EverApostate

    Whenever I was out in FS, I used to feel that it was very childish and to go and tell this silly message about God and Armageddon. Very often things seemed too good to be true in the Org, like the 144k, only Jws being saved....Jesus picking WT in 1919 ....

    I had doubts about Noah's Flood and many events in the Bible, even before I started to think critically.

    A JW friend of mine tipped about the 607 BC manipulation and then the flood gates of internet opened upon me.

    The most disturbing things for me were the Organ Transplant bans, Blood fractions, UNO ties and 1975 failure blame on the R&F.

    Then I bought Raymond Franz "Crisis of Conscience" and read it cover to cover.

    All my above research paid off. I was able to submit my disassociation letter with firmness and conviction.

    Simultaneously researched about the Bible and found it to be a Fraud also.

  • My Name is of No Consequence
    My Name is of No Consequence

    For me it was many things. I am a very analytical person. That is not a good trait to have in the org. Certain things never made sense to me, but I always found a way to repress or ignore those thoughts. But the one thing that made me say "huh?" was the overlapping generations. I have been mentally out ever since.

    There was collateral damage, however. My marriage is shot. I have no friends. My wife and I don't even speak. It is almost like my family has moved on without me.

    Sometimes I wonder if learning TTATT was worth it.

  • EverApostate
    EverApostate
    baldeagle, You are absolutely right about your Herd Mentality.
  • cha ching
    cha ching

    Sorry, My Name is of No Consequence,

    I think the WT knows exactly what it is doing, exactly what people figure out they will lose (friends, husbands, wives, children, aunts, uncles, grandmothers, cousins) and what damage it will cause, and the WT should be held liable.

    That is why many cannot leave.

    As a wife, I think 'what if I told my husband that I didn't think the WT was chosen in 1919'? (not even for any other reason than 'the WT gives such a stupid reason'.. let alone the 607 thing) We would always argue/discuss doctrine... I can still remember driving down a dirt road 'while vacation pioneering' explaining to him why I thought 'Jesus was our mediator'.... using scriptures, and it was ok, we always have 'debated'.

    But, when it came down to the bottom line, he was my head, and he read it from the WT, and that was that.

    If I had been the 'head of the house' or if my HUSBAND decided "yep, that's wrong" it may have changed earlier for us.

    As it was, we both left on the overlapping anointed/ 607 thing in 2011.

  • dubstepped
    dubstepped

    For me it was primarily getting mentally and emotionally healthy and realizing that there was no real love in the organization. The way they talked about everyone outside of the organization, and they way people inside dealt with each other, betrayed a lack of love. They "use" people in the congregation, they call each other "friends" while being in cliques, they look down on so many people and their egos are wrapped up in being self-righteous. It was just ugliness. That started it all for me. It took years to get healthy, and then it honestly wasn't until after we disassociated that I even broke down enough of the doctrine to realize that they were wrong about so many things. I knew enough to get me out, but even after we left I still had a lot to learn about the cult.

  • Fred Franztone
    Fred Franztone

    Turning 18.

  • Gemmel
    Gemmel

    For me the thing that first raised my doubts was the teaching on the creative days and the earth being only 50k or so years old.

    Once I was a late teen I became quite interested in astronomy/cosmology after the broadcast of the original COSMOS series by Carl Sagan.

    The org teaching was blatantly wrong and that lead me to question everything. I stayed in for 7 years after I made up my mind it was all nonsense because of my family. It was wasted time I should have left once I knew.

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