by nicolaou 93 Replies latest members politics
Diogenesister: Don't you know it's the tax fiddling, wealth inheriting or marrying into RICH THAT COST THE ORDINARY FOLK THE MOST!!!
So are you saying that it's only those rich that inherited it or married into it that cost us the most? Or are you implying that the rich in general obtained their wealth through marriage, inheritance, or tax evasion?
There is plenty of money in the United States to supply first class medical services to everyone. They have 1000's of billions of dollars they can.... oh right. They went into Iraq on a fake charge of 'weapons of mass destruction' and then got sucked into Afghanistan and now Syria and Pakistan and Africa and... well guess they don't have trillions of dollars for first class medical. Seems like everyone was just itchin' to go to war and now they suffer. Now there's no more money. They brought the curse on themselves. Too bad, too bad. When you waste money and still want all the niceties someone has to pay. Germany made Holland, Belgium, France, Poland etc. pay. The USA pillages its young and healthy to pay for medical. Someone has to pay. Someone has to get pillaged.
The problem with the ACA is that it took the worst of each state's health care system and cobbled them together in a federal policy. If you think it was bad before, it's worse now.
Costs have risen and care has gone down. I used to be able to go to the doctor twice a year for free, now I can't even though I'm (forced to) paying for insurance, I can't afford spending $1600 for the family to do just a yearly checkup and some blood work.
The people that didn't have insurance before, still don't have insurance because it's still too expensive and more and more in the middle class that do have insurance can no longer afford to use it because deductibles are now in the range of $10k/year (it was sub-1k before).
Prior to ACA it was illegal for debt collectors to collect on medical debt as they do with personal debt (you couldn't go bankrupt on medical debt, it was there, but it had no effect on your general creditworthiness), it was legal to go across state lines and purchase health insurance, it was legal to pay for your health care out of pocket and most providers would work with you to make your payments. It was illegal to not provide medical care to the uninsured, now you have no choice but to sign up for insurance on the spot if you don't have it. Now, they charge the amount they previously billed Medicare (overinflated bills to cover unpaid insurance claims) directly to the user with no recourse for us because there HAS to be an insurance company in the way - depending on your state you may have had some or all of the above provisions which you lost with ACA and you can't vote on the issue anymore since large portions of it are by presidential decree.
All the more reason for single payer. Your money doesn't go to pay the CEOs and stockholders of the Insurance companies. Why do you think the wealthy don't want it?
