by nicolaou 93 Replies latest members politics
Normally I stay away from political posts, here I am going to venture an opinion:
The program was rushed due to the lack of partisanship, it was going to be unpopular because of the taxes and the fact that people were going to be taxed just for breathing. When the Supreme Court made the decision authorizing the fees as a penalty, the end result was even worse because people don't like to be penalized just for being alive.
Trump does too, but doesn't bother to try and hide it so much.
He doesn't hide it, he is about money but more of an independent contractor in that department, whereas Obama and Hillary are wallstreet puppets. Like Trump is a corporation and democratic elites are pawns of corporations.
Bernie was the one shot at a progressive force for change and sadly his own party shafted him. However ugly we think trump is, in my mind he is the legacy of America's corrupt left. It's not so much he had success as it is they failed big time, and they need to stop pointing the finger at trump and at themselves for his victory.
His (trump) recent comments on Obomacare are confusing, he either he has no idea what he is talking about at all, or he is more aligned with a Bernie-like idea than we all thought. Only time will tell. And by his words I mean:
“insurance for everybody” with “much lower deductibles.”
One thing about Trump, he seems to be better at telling other big companies "screw you". Not sure if he is going to try and use this angle on reinventing the affordable care act?
At least Obama got things started for HC reform, the US was notoriously lagging behind in this regard.
When government sponsored HC system start, there's usually entailing problems because the system needs time to build up its financial base, after a point in time adjustments may be needed.
I agree to what others have said that Obama structured a plan that would appeal to pass into Congress.
There has to be a HC plan which people who aren't employed or desperately poor, who have existing health conditions, can acquire affordable HC insurance.
That's what Obama's original intent was all about.
An example of government sponsored HC in Canada .....
A single person who has an income of over $35,000 would pay about $72 per/month, a family of 4 would pay about $150 per/month, if your yearly income is below $20,000 you would be prorated reduced to only $25 per/month for a single person etc.
The key to why this works though is that everyone is on the same program, which builds up the monetary balance of the entire HC system.
i'm lucky enough to be a UK citizen--from birth....so have no concerns about these medical insurance issues. thank god (--WHO ?) someone previously invented the NHS
Most people never consider what it did to America's ever disappearing middle class though
For my family of 3 my health insurance is $15,000 a year!
Because for most of us, the only thing that changed was a higher price. We still have have to fight tooth and nail with the same greedy unscrupulous insurance companies who do everything in their power to avoid paying.
Not everyone dislike it. I know people with low incomes who get one hell of a deal and therefore love it. Others with high income hate it because their premiums are much higher than they were before Obamacare kicked in. It's socialism, plain and simple. It's redistribution of wealth, to use words that sounds better, but in the end is the same. It's the never ending fight between individualists and the "takes a village" crowd. "Haves" versus "have nots". Liberals versus conservatives. Republicans versus Democrats. Nothing new.
The program was rushed due to the lack of partisanship,
Wasn't the other way around? Most Republicans against it, all Democrats in favor
Because for most of us, the only thing that changed was a higher price. We still have to fight tooth and nail with the same greedy unscrupulous insurance companies who do everything in their power to avoid paying.
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Thanks for all the input, I'm processing it. I had thought, naively it seems, that opposition to Obamacare was only ideological but it's obviously a more complex mix of dogma and practicalities.
We have our problems in the UK with the NHS straining at near breaking point but it's still a simple system that almost everyone cares about and supports. I wish my American friends well . . .
