by UnDisfellowshipped 126 Replies latest jw friends
UDF, you tell us:
..."and THEN, Satan [Gog] would cause the exact same U.N. Organization ... to attack the Jehovah's Witnesses, "
Im not aware that this is a line that has been pushed much by the Tower. The UN will destroy the Harlot. Yes. Thats been pushed. But the UN attacking the Witnesses? I havent heard that one that I can recall. Can you present a couple of decent quotes backing this? I'll be very eager to examine them.
Great posts by the way.
RF; I posted these earlier but you may have missed them, as it's a long thread:
14 In due course, the “scarlet-colored wild beast” itself must go off into destruction. But before this happens, and even before its final beastly attack on God’s people, that UN beast has a special service to perform. Jehovah puts ‘his thought into the hearts of the wild beast and its militarized horns.’ With what result? God’s angel answers: “And the ten horns that you saw, and the wild beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.”
The prophecies of the Bible focus in on our day. They show us what lies immediately ahead. “For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.” (Romans 15:4) The prophetic word depicts mankind’s ‘last hope for peace,’ the UN, as a scarlet-colored wild beast. Oh, it may trump up some kind of shaky peace and share in the cry “Peace and security!”—in harmony with its charter and in fulfillment of the prophecy at 1 Thessalonians 5:3. But then Jehovah will maneuver the militarized “horns” of the UN to devastate false religion, “Babylon the Great,” of which Christendom’s sects make up the most reprehensible part. Then, when those “horns” turn to do battle with the Lamb, Jesus Christ, by attacking the peace-loving witnesses of Jehovah, God’s sword of execution will descend on those nations and their armies, and “they will by no means escape.”—Revelation 17:3-6, 12-17.
Those are very good quotes dmouse! Thanks for posting them!
Refiners Fire, here are a couple more:
Revelation - Its Grand Climax At Hand! Book (Published in 1988), Page 279, Chapter 39:
With the desolating of Babylon the Great, the great tribulation will already have started. Then, urged on by Satan, the scarlet-colored wild beast and its ten horns will concentrate their attack on Jehovah’s people. The Devil, more wrathful than ever at God’s womanlike organization, is determined to use his dupes in waging war to a finish with the remaining ones of her seed. (Revelation 12:17) This is Satan’s last opportunity!
2. The Devil’s vicious assault is vividly described in Ezekiel chapter 38. There, the debased Satan is called "Gog of the land of Magog."___________________________________________________
Isaiah's Prophecy - Light For All Mankind Book (Published in 2000), Volume 1, Pages 153-154, Chapter 12:
20. Whom will Jehovah use to discipline rebellious Christendom? We find the answer in the 17th chapter of Revelation. There we are introduced to a harlot, “Babylon the Great,” representing all the world’s false religions, including Christendom. The harlot is riding a scarlet-colored wild beast that has seven heads and ten horns. (Revelation 17:3, 5, 7-12) The wild beast represents the United Nations organization. Just as the ancient Assyrian destroyed Samaria, the scarlet-colored wild beast “will hate the harlot and will make her devastated and naked, and will eat up her fleshy parts and will completely burn her with fire.” (Revelation 17:16) Thus the modern-day Assyrian (nations associated with the UN) will deal Christendom a mighty blow and will crush her out of existence.
21. Will Jehovah’s faithful Witnesses perish along with Babylon the Great? No. God is not displeased with them. Pure worship will survive. However, the wild beast that destroys Babylon the Great also casts a greedy eye in the direction of Jehovah’s people. In doing so, the beast carries out, not God’s thought, but the thought of someone else. Who? Satan the Devil.
22. Jehovah exposes Satan’s prideful scheme: “It must occur in that day that things will come up into your [Satan’s] heart, and you will certainly think up an injurious scheme; and you must say: ‘I shall . . . come in upon those having no disturbance, dwelling in security, all of them dwelling without [a protective] wall . . .’ It will be to get a big spoil and to do much plundering.” (Ezekiel 38:10-12) Satan will reason, ‘Yes, why not incite the nations to attack Jehovah’s Witnesses? They are vulnerable, unprotected, without political influence. They will offer no resistance. How easy it will be to pluck them like eggs from an unprotected nest!’
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The Watchtower, June 1, 2003 Issue, Page 20:
11. Gog of Magog is identified as Satan the Devil in his debased condition since 1914. As a spirit creature, he cannot carry out his attack directly, but will use human agencies to do his deeds. Who will these human agencies be? The Bible does not give us details, yet it does give us certain indications that can help us to identify who they will be. As world events unfold in fulfilment of Bible propecies, we gradually get an ever clearer picture. Jehovah's people avoid speculation but remain spiritually alert, fully aware of political and religious developments that fit into the framework of Bible prophecy.
From June 1 2003 WT (as posted by undisfellowshipped)
16: Stand still: Jehovah's servants will not try to save themselves but will place their implicit trust in Jehovah. Only he is capable of rescuing his servants out of world chaos, and he has promised to do so. (Isaiah 43:10, 11; 54:15; Lamentations 3:26) Trusting in Jehovah will include trusting the modern visible channel that he has clearly been using for decades to serve his purposes. As never before, true Christians will then need to place their confidence in fellow worshipers authorized by Jehovah and his reigning King to take the lead. These faithful men will direct God's people. Ignoring their direction could end in disaster.--Matthew 24:45-47; Hebrews 13:7, 17.
Now these guys're raving mad. What's the difference between this nonsense and placing one's trust in "mere men", the same men who've messed up the lives of witnesses for decades. Blatant liars, hypocrites, bastards. Placing trust in "fellow" worshippers? Faithless men? This is beyond shocking. And, for the avoidance of any doubt, new light now teaches that the "the king of the north" will be the one to attack God's people. They need not say that in many more words than they've already done. These Writing guys 're going to rot in Sheol.
hurt
I think it's intresting that by its' very nature, the watchtower, is mans' attempt to save himself from God's Wrath. They are sure trying to save themselves now.
bttt
Thanks for those quotes UDF. Ive been out 20 years, memory fails over time. lol
I'd love to see the scans of this article... Anyone?
Observador.
i am trying to dredge this up from memory. The wild beast turns on BTG and destroys her, and then turns on God's people last. Or is that old light.?
I thought id "bttt" this thread into triple figure responses.
