Hi Undisfellowshipped:
There was absolutely NO mention of the United Nations or the Scarlet-Colored Wild Beast in the entire Talk about Babylon being destroyed! At the beginning of his Talk, the Brother said: "Babylon the Great will be destroyed by Political Powers".
Then, later in the Talk, he said that "Jehovah was going to send Jesus and the angels, and Jesus and the angels would DIRECTLY destroy Babylon the Great."
Thanks, for the quote above.
Here is where we have to put on our "thinking caps", I believe. It is vital that we do this immediately so that we can be alert for what is to happen next, as I believe we reach "critical mass" within the JW Organization.
Many have commented that they didn't hear any of this. They say, the speaker in their particular congregations didn't say the same thing that you heard, when they got their particular version of the Special Talk, right?
Maybe something unusual is going on here.
Remember this point made by "Bible Examiner".
"...A "significant re-adjustment" in Watchtower dicta is in the works. Is it important? How so? If you do want to know, then take the time to read the following information, for doctrine is the motivation behind everything that is "Watchtower", and recent happenings within Watchtower-world shed light on the future course of the great ship Watchtower. ...
...So, it's no wonder that the Watchtower is going to change this self-contradictory nonsense by way of sermons given by COs instead of announcing it outright by way of their "channel" journal the Watchtower magazine. After the COs have made their rounds and given "new light" to congregations on a one-at -a-time basis, then the Watchtower can safely discuss Matthew chapter 24 with their new doctrine, and nobody will notice….So they thought! "
Now, here was the main point "BibleExaminer" brought out for us:
"...The CO is giving a talk that in summary says that the allegory of so many years is now GONE. He is teaching that there is no "second" and "greater" fulfillment of Matthew 24:15-16 but that it was fulfilled in complete in the first century, and ONLY UPON JEWRY."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/9882/117571/post.ashx#117571
A Circuit Overseer was going around, "on a one-on-one basis", teaching this "new light" from the platform. Info, "new light" if you will, on the United Nations Organization. Now how do you suppose he was able to do this, unless first he was "granted permission" to do so from you know who, the WTS itself. (No C.O. that I know, would be stupid enough to think he could teach what amounts to "apostasy" on the UN, bring out his own "new light" from his own opinion, and think he could get away with it!) So we can reasonably conclude, he was given permission to do this.
On that basis, we can call it "regional sampling" or testing on the GB's part. "Testing out the waters" in a particular region (obviously for damage control purposes in case something goes wrong). That's why everybody didn't hear the same thing at the Special Talk. The material was switched, depending upon the area you lived in.
Also, how about these vague and subtle statements appearing in the June 1st, to the same effect that if we actually say specifically the UN carries out the destruction, in the role of the "8th King" and/or the "Scarlet-Colored Wild Beast", if we say specifically then we are "speculating"? JWs have been saying this for many years now. The publications used to say it. But now, to say it is "speculating". Hmmmmmm.
And why would such a statement appear in the June 1st magazine, which by the way, is a "study article" too, so no one will miss it? Why is that particular "directive" there in the first place?
How about the conspicuous ABSENCE of any mention of the UN for some strange reason, in this Special Talk on "Babylon The Great"? Normally, any talk on a subject of this magnitude also covers the notorious "wild beast"/UN attack too, doesn't it? Normally speaking, it does. The UN is always mentioned in these Special Talks on such subjects, as I recall. But we don't find any mention of the UN in this particular Special Talk. Why?
And finally, how about the conspicuous ABSENSE of any mention of the UN for some strange reason in the June 1st Watchtower, where they told us not to "speculate" on such things like who is going to do the actual "attacking". (As if they didn't think we'd notice.) Why?
Yes, I think it is reasonable to conclude that they are ready to change this doctrine alright.
Now compare all this with a revealing recent comment from "Gamaliel" on another thread.
...I just mainly wanted to add that I just spoke last week with two very knowledgable old friends from Bethel (both worked in Writing for many years). One friend especially talked about the aging of the GB, the subtle changes to doctrine for PR and legal purposes, the possibility of JW reform and mainstreaming the religion for survival. He sees very serious trouble.
"Subtle changes to doctrine ...very serious trouble."
Now lets add the final, the most important ingredient:
It has recently been revealed that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses secretly agreed for the WTS to become NGOs with the UN for a 10 year period.
Along that line, a G.B. member (M. Henschel) is reported to have flashed a UN ID card at assembly overseas showing United Nations "Diplomatic Status", when asked to identify himself to worldly authorities. Or how about the reports we are hearing of G.B. giving the okay for themselves and Missionaries to use UN's Airplanes to travel overseas, etc., etc.
When we think about it my friend, and put it all together, it all makes sense. The G.B. wants to use the UN Organization, with all of its prestige, power and privileges, just like all of the churches are doing and have been doing for years and years now.
So if we put our thinking caps on, yes then, we can safely bet or reason out the fact that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses does want to change this doctrine (on the Disgusting UN "beast"). And have wanted to do so for some time now. But here's the problem.
How do you "break the news" to the brothers? How do you make such a serious, earthshaking change in doctrine such as this, without incurring great "fallout" from the brothers? How do you do this without creating tremendous upheavals in the organization, who has long built a great disdain and outright HATRED for the United Nations Organization? A HATRED and DISDAIN that you, the Governing Body itself, have instilled and cultivated in these brothers for over 80 years. How do you overcome such a situation?
Remember, this is a teaching that the WTS has promulgated and heralded ever since 1921 or over 80 years? It is a teaching that literally saturates, permeates ALL OF THEIR PRINTED PUBLICATIONS. They have become widely known for this particular brand of iconoclastic "preaching against idols" and fiery condemnations to political institutions to many as a lasting legacy for themselves. And now, before 15 million readers of the Watchtower magazine, before the whole earth, they want to change!
Indeed, by all accounts, to make this change, this is not going to be an easy mountain to climb, even for the powerful Governing Body, if you know what I mean.
bjc
