by towerwatchman 315 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
To construct even one short protein molecule of 150 amino acids by chance within the prebiotic soup
You are decades out of date. Nobody thinks life began in a prebiotic soup.
You have never read a book on evolution in your life have you?
DNA provides incontrovertible proof that all of life evolved from a common ancestor over millions of years.
PS - If you must copy-paste have the honesty to provide a link to the source.
My point is that there is something wrong with the assertion that suffering disproves the God of the Bible when the Bible itself talks about these very issues and includes it in its depiction of God. It seems to me the Bible at different points says three things about God:
1. He is all powerful.
2. He is perfect in love.
3. We can't always understand why God acts as he does.
Your argument that the God of the Bible doesn't exist relies on the first two points to the exclusion of the third. You may say Paul is stupid or you don't like the parts of the Bible that say God is inscrutable. But these parts of the Bible nevertheless exist. And they don't claim there are easy answers to God's righteousness, they say humans can't understand or it's not our place to question God.
The bible provides on answers only dogma.
1. He is all powerful.
2. He is perfect in love.
3. We can't always understand why God acts as he does.
This is not an answer. It is an appeal to admit a blatant contradiction. No chance.
Designing a world that inevitably blows up and randomly kills millions of its inhabitants is not something an all-powerful and loving god would do.
Either he is a bad designer or a sadist.
Either way he is not the god of christian theism.
You're still not getting the point.
The point is it's wrong to say that suffering disproves the God of the Bible, because the Bible itself says that God allows unjust things to happen. So the idea of an all powerful God who allows bad things is not alien to the Bible. It's in there in black and white.
You can say you find Paul's solution unsatisfactory. But it seems wrong to pretend it doesn't exist or the Bible doesn't include the teaching that God's actions cannot be questioned.
So the idea of an all powerful God who allows bad things is not alien to the Bible.
The bible is the motherload of dumbass sayings and contradictions.
Natural disasters proves that an omnipotent and loving god does not exist.
What it doesn't disprove is the existence of a God whose actions sometimes cannot be understood or explained by humans. And this is precisely the kind of God that Paul writes about in Romans.
Therefore a God in whom we cannot reconcile goodness and complete power doesn't contradict scripture. In fact it's exactly how scripture describes God, whether we like it or not.
To cofty
TWM - Your intellectual dishonesty makes conversation impossible.
Care to point one out
Bollocks.
Christians worship an omnipotent god who is the epitome of love.
Natural disasters prove they are deluded.
Claiming that it is a mystery is nothing but dishonesty.
To Finkelstein
If natural law is omniscience then natural law must be god......... problem solved
Well it is not.
Care to point one out
You avoid every difficult question. You have listened to hours of Wm L Craig videos and formed your arguments in a bubble. Every word you write is either WLC or S. Meyer. You bounce all over the place using copy-paste as if you have written it yourself and never provide links. You ignore every argument of substance.
You never converse or attempt to understand anything others are saying.
