Faithful Slave is not appointed yet - only in the future

by TheWonderofYou 16 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  TheWonderofYou

  Did you read this study articel in which the Slave says it is not appointed yet? Errors excepted.

  Excerpt from study articel 13 7/15 p 8

  So there is good reason for us to understand Matthew 24:46, 47 to mean that Jesus will arrive to appoint the faithful slave over all his belongings at that time in the future during the great tribulation.* (See endnote.) Jesus’ prophecy shows that all eight of these scriptures that mention his coming refer to the time of judgment during the great tribulation.

  If the FDS - faithful and discreet slave /group of men leading Jehovash witnesses - has not been appointed 1918 over the belongings of our faith - belongings like feeding, supervision, shepherding and providing spiritual  food, providing the NWT of the bible, new headquarters  and not to forget providing judgicial commitee instructions and providing legal representation in case of members face gross loss of blood  - then why should anybody listen to it?

  Everything written and taught since 1918 was not authorized by jesus christ at all! It erroneously wrote Watchtower study articles and seduced members to think it was appointed by jesus 1918. Can anyone lead us without being appointed? Didnt the Watchtower leaders lead astray christians herewith, was not that the proclamation  "Here I am", as if they were the sole slave who followed Jesus*footsteps?.

  So Watchtower s Leaders are simply like all other christians urged to be faitfhul but they are not appointed over all belongings of Jehovahs witnesses, they write it themselves in their own magazin, they can only hope to get appointed in the future. So they have no authority over us at all to ask us to come back. 

  I will follow the Watchtower only if it should happen - some day - in the great tribulation that Jesus will appoint these men effectively over all belongings. But this is actually to happen in the future as announced the Watchtower 2015.

  This contradicts the official statements that the faitful slave is identical with the governing body and that the GB has the authority over all JWs already NOW.

  Errors excepted!

  Happy weekend all.
  
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  konceptual99

  The article explains that the FDS gets two appointments. The first is over "the domestics" - everyone else other than the GB. This is understood to have happened 1919. The second appointment is over the belongings.

  Check paragraphs 11 onwards to get "clarity" ;-)
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  TheWonderofYou

  I can live with a progressive responsibility because everyone of us develops. But what is the sense of an appointment over all belongings at all if it happens in the last moments of this world right shortly before the new world anyway comes, why this honor only for this little time of the end, would that be a honory office or a medal or would that affect even the daily work in the great tribulation and judgement?

  It sounds strange that the honor of being appointed over all belongings begins just with the great tribulation to watch the judgment and doing nothing else.

  Even if the honor would remain 1000 years or even longer but why does this honor over all belongings not begin already before the tribulation so that the slave could prepare itself for this tribulation better ? 

  Perhaps I dont understand what the belongings in this parable are at all. It would be a better, a real cool honor to get appointed over all belonging not in the tribulation but only in the new world.

  Explanation of expression "great tribulation": ,,, dont the goats include the false religions? Why first the religions and than the goats isnt that the same group?

  Great tribulation: The end of this wicked world. First, false religion will be destroyed. Then, there will be a time when Jesus will judge the sheep and the goats and appoint his faithful slave over all the Master’s belongings. Finally, the rest of this system will be destroyed at Armageddon
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  TheWonderofYou

  My train of thought would lead to the next logical but unimaginable and unbearable burden of responsibility for the faithful slave (group leading JWs) inmidst of the great tribulation.

  Clear is that the FDS receives the authority over "all belongings" of Jesus Christ only in the great tribulation and not before. What would that mean?

  That the FDS would be jointly responsible with Jesus Christ for destroying the false religion = to plan the attack, by usage of the United Nations and judging over the goats as co-judges [btw are not the false religions a fraction of the quantity goats?]. It could even be a human cooperation between FDS and United Nations forces to destroy false religion, in a manner of speaking. I think nobody likes such an interpretation.

  What did we learn? If you are appointed over all belongings by Jesus himself you cant choose only the lucky side.
  Dont they catch what they are teaching?

  First, false religion will be destroyed....
  when the United Nations (the modern-day “disgusting thing”) attacks Christendom (which is holy in the eyes of nominal Christians) and the rest of Babylon the Great. ...when the United Nations attacks Babylon the Great. (paragraph 19)

   We concluded that those who rejected the Kingdom message and who died before the start of the great tribulation would die as goats—without the hope of a resurrection.
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  zeb

  In my early days the FDS was all the bethel -ites who slaved away making books etc.

  Recently I heard that the FDS was the gb..

  Now they aren't anymore it now wait a while..
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  sowhatnow

  good read

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/faithful-discreet-slave.php

  .....[This is not what was intended by the Scriptures. The Bible states that the appointment over all the belongings is made after the master arrives.
  Matthew 24:46,47 "Happy is that slave if his master on arriving (erchomai) finds him doing so. Truly I say to you, He will appoint him over all his belongings."
  The master has not yet arrived, as the memorial is to cease on his arrival, and so the Slave has not been appointed over all the belongings.
  1 Corinthians 11:26 "For as often as you eat this loaf and drink this cup, you keep proclaiming the death of the Lord, until he arrives (erchomai)."]
  I personally feel the apostles were the intended audience,  a teaching parable for them, and they were given the 'belongings' in Acts ch 1. just my opinion. 
  
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  Finkelstein

  " We bullshitted toward empowering are selves for the last 100 years, at the expense of millions of lives and thousands of deaths but if you still think that being subservient to us as toward appeasing Jah, well that's fine by us .

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  prologos

  That "well done F&DS" appointment during the Great Tribulation will be a big disappointment, --why? because according to wt prophecy, it is then, well before Armageddon, that all the appointed anointed die, are raptured , called to heaven.

  wt prophecy is a still born affair. dead on arrival.
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  Crazyguy

  Lets not forget Peter said it was just a parable in Luke 12: 41
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  Lieu

  Well, if you read the whole chapter of Matt 24, then you readily see Jesus is telling the disciples to always be on the watch for him because no one knows his return time. They earlier pose the question about when the things he's relating will happen.

  Matthew 24:3 GW

  As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, his disciples came to him privately and said, "Tell us, when will this happen? What will be the sign that you are coming again, and when will the world come to an end?"

  Jesus does his parables to answer them. He keeps going into the next chapter.

  It's not for any other purpose.

  Out of context, as usual, the verse has little meaning and can be used for any nefarious purpose.