by waton 23 Replies latest watchtower bible
For lurkers: Current study article 1st December wt. in Sept. study edition. p.52
Details hidden in the discussion: a pair of 'elephants in the room', and their calves.
1) great Crowd comes out of the Great Tribulation. also:
2) is in the heavenly temple,
wt promised never dying since 1918, when the world had ended invisibly, symbolically 4 years earlier in 1914.
Huge contradictions about the location of the great crowd with the WT interpretation..
Rev 7:9 NWT2013 "After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, and out of all the nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb dressed in white robes, and their were palm branches in their hands."
If they think that "standing before the throne" means remotely identified as being on planet paradise earth then they have a problem with what is said in verse 11.
Rev 7:11 NWT2013 "All the angels were standing around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures and they fell facedown before the throne worshipped God."
These angels, elders and four living creatures were in heaven when they were around the throne but when they went facedown to worship God they were all residing on paradise earth for that moment when they were before the throne. It makes no sense.
They just say whatever they want and people will just believe because it’s gods organization. The people in the organization are just so ignorant and arrogant at the same time.
The people in the organization are just so ignorant and arrogant at the same time.
No truer words
The crows says " salvation we owe--" so, they can not be existing now, because none of them is saved. saved because they endured to the end.
How can you endure wtt weirdness that long?
The average JW today hasn`t got a clue about what the bible actually says ,does it say what it means ? or does it mean what it says ?
All they want to hear is what the WT/GB tell them what to believe ,the majority of them are mentally lazy and want somebody else to tell them what they should believe.
All they care about is a feel good religion one that is all about emotions and feelings ,a paradise ,petting pandas ,having a pet lion ,eating grapes off a vine ,in a garden like Eden .
In paragraph 11 WT soft-pedals huge errors that were made early on regarding the identity of 'The Crowd' by explaining them away as incorrect assumptions:
"...Of course, that thinking was influenced by two incorrect assumptions: (1) that the great crowd would reside in heaven and (2) that the great crowd would be made up of less zealous Christians."
JW.org is not a religion. My jw father told me aprox 1990 that it is more and more a lifestyle. He was right. It's a kind of social community. The opinions are "alt right".
Now with the new simple watchtower writing style, focus on lifestyle and a website that connects you with mainly life examples, check lists for succesfull christian life, we can say that the organization has found their professional stage in history. Better organized that now is not possible. But no religion anymore.
G.
Of course, that thinking was influenced by two incorrect assumptions: (1) that the great crowd would reside in heaven and (2) that the great crowd would be made up of less zealous Christians."
And (3) They know WTF they are talking about
Crazyguy2 - "The people in the organization are just so ignorant and arrogant at the same time."
The two go hand in hand.
In my experience, it's the really stupid people who always seem to think they're actually smarter than everyone else.
