EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS

by raymond frantz 52 Replies latest jw friends

  • Longlivetherenegades
    Longlivetherenegades

    What an interesting video to watch. Considering while still very young and possibly after baptism a year or two an elder asked me....

    How do those writing in the Awake and Watchtower publications about pornography get to know so much about it?

    It was later in life I realise that it was a tricky question to either trap me or get to seek reason why members should be scrutuized over what they themselves really have so much knowledge about which he feels it is not possible if not the fact that those writers have come in contact with pornography in different format videos, images, writings and lots more in their research and thousands of letters coming from adults that remain children due to the state the religious organization wants them to be.

    The dangers of discerning minds over Pornography is when these Pharisees decides to classify it into Abhorrent and non abhorrent. Obviously no backing for that in the scripture it just goes to show how pharisaical they are as to poke their noses into what does not concern them.

  • HiddlesWife
    HiddlesWife

    THIS video reminds me of the other leaked one regarding the elder who permitted his daughter to attend college and the BOE went QUITE APE on the guy. WT is ALWAYS trying to VICTIM BLAME their followers concerning NORMAL aspects of life; ABNORMAL stuff gets put up in the faces of the membership, making it all seem to be THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS on The Planet!

    No wonder A PLETHORA of Dubs leave this cultporation year after year after year after year---in droves‼

  • LeeMerk
    LeeMerk

    What is non abhorrent pornography?

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    Lee

    Probably the old "I know it when I see it"

    There is a huge variation from the David statue to kama sutra to playboy to oral to kinky. Remember the GB is obsessed with breasts, oral, and masturbation.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    What is non abhorrent pornography?

    I believe opposite sex nudity or heterosexual sex involving one couple would fall into that. Anything involving same-sex, group/orgies, bestiality, torture, obviously underaged, etc would probably fall into the "abhorrent" category.

    The org has got more relaxed over oral in recent years, if it was just one man on one woman (or vice versa), so I doubt that would count as "abhorrent".

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange
    What is non abhorrent pornography?

    I believe that may require an extensive investigation to determine.

    Although I find myself very, very busy these days, I will do my utmost to schedule the time required to do an exhaustive investigation.

  • ThomasMore
    ThomasMore

    I know an elder who thought that abhorrent "gay" porn only applied to men/men. He was shocked when it was pointed out that it applied to women/women as well. Apparently, he was watching abhorrent female gay porn and thought it was not abhorrent. When I heard the story, I had to laugh out loud. Seeing him at assemblies, I could hardly keep a straight face.

  • Earnest
    Earnest

    Shepherd The Flock of God, 2024, Chapter 13, section 3 :

    Such abhorrent forms of pornography include homosexuality (sex between those of the same gender), group sex, bestiality, sadistic torture, bondage, gang rape, the brutalizing of women, or child pornography.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    Shepherd The Flock of God, 2024, Chapter 13, section 3 :
    Such abhorrent forms of pornography include homosexuality (sex between those of the same gender), group sex, bestiality, sadistic torture, bondage, gang rape, the brutalizing of women, or child pornography.

    Thanks for that, Earnest. Pretty much what I thought. I've never been an elder nor had to deal with any of the above, but I probably remembered that from reading a leaked copy of the Shepherd book...

    FWIW, I completely agree with this previous comment from fedup:

    The content produced by the WT—whether it's videos, books, magazines, or talks—creates a culture where individuals become so self-righteous that they abandon common sense and compassion. The fear of man outweighs the fear of God. Most elders would never admit to watching porn, and understandably so. Who wants to experience invasive questions about their personal life? This only leads to an organization filled with individuals who lead double lives, creating a community of hypocrites who believe they have the right to judge others. True friendship is extremely rare within this organization, because the WT teaches you not to be a friend.

    Changes in behaviour seem to be driven much more by fear of man (shame of others in the congregation finding out, of losing 'privileges', etc) than really improving one's moral character or standing before God and Christ. It's a situation the Org has never really tried to fix within congregations, for all the supposed warm words in literature and talks about forgiveness, living with one another's imperfections, and so on. That's been reinforced by the way 'discipline' is applied, through meetings with elders, 'reproof' (especially in public), etc.

  • hoser
    hoser

    Journeyman:

    If it works why fix it?

    The watchtower corporate cultural of guilt/shame/repentance/snitching keeps the sheeples on the treadmill, keeps them building kingdom halls, recruiting and breeding replacement drones so why fuck with the formula?

    The leadership could care less about you or me and the destroyed lives they have created, That’s what keeps us coming back for more abuse and slavery.

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