by joey jojo 16 Replies latest jw experiences
Speaking to an old elder friend recently about his decision to home school his high school aged kids.
He claims that here in Australia, about 30% of the students that log into online classrooms are JW's. The others are disabled kids - who cant physically attend class and the rest are long distance students.
Another generation of under-educated JW kids on the way.
Home schooling doesn’t necessarily mean they are undereducated. Plenty of people do it.
In the US, African American families often have a bias against education, there too you see despite full availability of public schools, people don’t graduate high school, are unable to read properly etc. So too JW are biased against education, despite having it available, their kids often don’t fully attend, putting their efforts into proselytizing.
Home schoolers on average do better than public schools, on par with private schools. It all depends on the parent and their priorities, kids mirror that. Home schooling in some regions of the world allow side stepping of oversight, the US is pretty strict on these things, requiring annual equivalency tests both at state and federal level, but Europe and I guess Australia, once you home school there are no further checks.
Home schooling doesn’t necessarily mean they are undereducated. Plenty of people do it.
True, but I wont hold my breath that any home-schooled JW kid wins a nobel prize. Every JW generation since at least the 60's has been under-educated, home-schooled or not.
Hey, I’m a JW kid, but I was self-educated and self-motivated. I do have accolades and relatively well published nowadays, even have my name in documents related to one of the biggest US scientific project of the last and next decade, even made small contributions to the CERN LHC project. I agree that the majority if they remain JW may not, but I believe approx. 80% of JW kids nowadays stop attending, go to college etc.
JW abuse (in every way from eviction and abandonment to more serious physical and sexual abuse) in general is a problem that perpetuates through the generations, but kids can be successful despite lack of early education. My last year in school was interrupted by JW ‘schools’, I tried so hard in pursuit of a JW girl :) but I pulled it together somehow. I know others may not have been as lucky, but you can always do your best and you’re almost guaranteed to be successful. Nobel prize specifically has always been a political thing, but I know kids that were raised JW that have the potential.
I do have accolades and relatively well published nowadays, even have my name in documents related to one of the biggest US scientific project of the last and next decade, even made small contributions to the CERN LHC project.
Now Im intrigued - what area of study?
Home schoolers on average do better than public schools, on par with private schools. It all depends on the parent and their priorities, kids mirror that. Home schooling in some regions of the world allow side stepping of oversight, the US is pretty strict on these things, requiring annual equivalency tests both at state and federal level, but Europe and I guess Australia, once you home school there are no further checks.
Now that i do find hard to believe. It certainly isn't the experience i hear over and again from home schooled ex jws. If home school kids do better than state schooled kids and as well as private schooled kids, then god help your school system. In Australia kids are mainly home schooled due to vast distances in the outback and they have professional teacher's teaching them, so its not quite the same as the mum and dad home schooling we think of in the US and the UK.
I shudder to think what would have happened to me, if I had to be home schooled by my HS dropout mom. I’m in the US. I graduated high school early. I was sixteen.
@diogenesister: the primary reason people homeschool is to get a better education. Again, it is all about parental motivation to the kids, where are the priorities. If the parents want their kids to go out in service and view school as suspicious, you won’t get good results, regardless of the type of school.
People from around the world go to the US for private education and healthcare, simply because it has the best outcome globally for people that are motivated. From lower to higher education, the US is filled with the rich class children of Asians, Africans and Europeans. I’ve worked in higher education for a while now and it is easier to find a foreigner than an American, even the people you think are white, speak perfect English (like myself) are often foreigners.
@Joey: computational neuroscience. Contributions to other fields are in parallel software development (large data management, image processing and language, ML/AI). Some famous studies you may have heard of are analyzing Google ngrams/project Gutenberg how words form chains that become sentences (a stepping stone for modern LLM), our evolutionary relation to color red (males being more attracted when a female wears red), video gamers being more reactive than their peers (found out by pure accident, student in the lab was developing a test and had his friends test it and got “impossible” results), NFL helmet brain damage studies and the fact that apes can do relatively complex math.
Joey jojo
"Another generation of under - educated JWs on the way".
Maybe this will work to the Borgs advantage. Unfortunately.
The Borganization capitalizes on this.
It really is unfortunate.
I know people in the US who are not jw's and take their homeschooling very serious. They opted out of the classrooms when things like drag queens were being welcomed for reading hour with 5-7 year olds, when gender books were supposed to be normal and so forth. Some parents just don't agree with some of that and that is their choice.
That being said there is testing for these kids but that is state by state. Some states are more rigorous than others. In years past I would agree that many home school kids were just plain weird. sorry to say so but that is my opinion. Now there are so many options and programs for home school kids that is not necessarily the case. All depends on the parent I guess.
