by DATA-DOG 154 Replies latest social current
RM,
You keep saying talking about drugs which help with severe symptoms, and there are some that exist. That being said, do you understand the difference between prevention and early treatment and waiting until symptoms are severe?
You won’t answer my questions. You’re using the S.I.F.T method to practice “Copy and Paste Journalism.”
At this point is seems that you are making a conscious choice to be ignorant.
DD
It seems the medical community has facts and data that you just don't agree with.
If that is the case then no one can help that but you yourself.
So now we are shifting to preventive onslaught medical procedures away from severe cases in hospitals .
uuummm ???
You come off as being a well experienced professional in treating virus derived health problems.
One should keep in mind that this virus effects people in dramatically various ways, from no symptoms at all to severe leading to death, the healthy to the unhealthy, to the young and elderly.
This is one screwball of a virus if there ever was one to be sure.
There is no test to accurately determine how this virus will effect people, so the only way to protect people in a populated environment is to vaccinate everyone and hope that this virus will shrink itself to a small number of infections, from that point normal social interactions can resume to a pre pandemic state.
Anyone heard of Ivermectin? It's a cheap alternative, not popular with MSM.
In case you missed this Vidqun .....
Some more information ....
The available scientific evidence does not support the use of ivermectin, an antiparastic drug, for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19 outside the context of clinical trials, according to a new report from Cochrane, an international organization that reviews medical research and provides guidance about clinical practice.
Ivermectin has been the subject of much misinformation during the pandemic, prompting multiple health organizations and one of the drug’s manufacturers to issue warnings throughout the past year that there is not sufficient evidence to recommend its use for COVID-19 beyond a trial setting
@Rocketman: The FDA says the same about the vaccines, there is not sufficient evidence to recommend its use, the FDA never approved it.
Here is a RECENT meta-analysis of 15 trials: https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
What the media and those other media and half-scientific sources you claim say is about prevention of COVID, not about the treatment and they are intentionally mudding the waters, presumably on behalf of their corporate overlords. That is why I'm assuming Merck to be highly biased, as they are one of the vaccine providers. Selling a $5 OTC drug to only the sick is less attractive than a $25-75/dose vaccine to everyone. We know the WHO is highly biased, we know the government is highly biased, so why don't you point to an actual recent study like I did from a scientific journal.
Rocketman123, you better tell the Israelis that they are barking up the wrong tree. Their double blind study was all wrong. Cochrane, pro-vaccers by any chance?
Thanks Anony Mous. The study published earlier this year in the American Journal of Therapeutics highlighted that “a review by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance summarized findings from 27 studies on the effects of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 infection, concluding that ivermectin ‘demonstrates a strong signal of therapeutic efficacy’ against COVID-19.”
So whats the best approach to dealing with this virus right now ?
A drug that is assumed to help at the early stage of infection but even its manufacturer says that it should not be used outside of clinical trials or vaccinations that are proven more effective in lowering symptoms and possibly transmissions ?
I'd take the vaccinations.
Hospitalizations and Deaths
Vaccinated vs Un-vaccinated
You don't really need master's degree in statistics to interrupt what the data is saying.
This place literally reminds me of the " reasoning from the scriptures " books published from the borg. The incredible lengths people go to , to try and disprove the obvious.
The narcissism and cognitive dissonance of cult survivors would make one interesting psychological study.
"A drug that is assumed to help at the early stage of infection but even its manufacturer says that it should not be used outside of clinical trials..."- Drugs are used off label every single day in the US and around the world, here is just one article about that- https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/features/off-label-drug-use-what-you-need-to-know Many countries are now starting to use ivermectin and even in the US though it will not be reported in mainstream news. See therapies to deal with those who are sick instead of waiting until it is too late to even treat them https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/math-plus-protocol/
"...vaccinations that are proven more effective in lowering symptoms and possibly transmissions ?"- Obviously the vaccines are not working that well if you consider Israel or Iceland for example. They have the highest vaccine compliance and some of the highest 'breakthrough' covid cases.
If Joe had the vaccine and Mary didn't they both get sick (they both are in relatively good health, below 60 etc..) Joe has very mild symptoms and thinks he may just have a cold, he continues on with life thinking that. He believes that because he is vaccinated he is free to go the store, dinner, work, etc... Mary on the other hand did not previously ever have covid nor did she have the shot, she is pretty sick, flu-ish feeling and stays home because, well, because most people do stay home if they have flu like symptoms. Who will be spreading covid? Joe or Mary?
Pfizer has admitted that efficacy drops considerably after 4-6 months while natural immunity is durable and lasting. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19 If one has recovered from covid they do not need the vaccine and if you had the vaccine you should not worry if they guy next to you has had a shot or not, he/she may have already had covid and have natural immunity.
Another think to think of https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/information-security-expert-on-revealed-pfizer-agreements-theres-good-reason-pfizer-fought-to-hide-the-details-of-these-contracts/
