It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon 2908 Replies latest jw friends

  • Simon
    Simon
    Also love the drawing ...😁

    Yeah, nailed it!

    I came across these ... made me think of "someone" but interestingly it explains how narcissists often like to:

    1. Play the victim
    2. Exhibit childlike behavior
    3. Seek sensations, often through risky behavior

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-u16myH4WU

    Also this one, how narcissists often cheat on their partner:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPSw0EsoXKM

    This one too - does it sound like he's describing a certain person exactly?!?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTtXvnWh9Ws

  • Toblerone5
    Toblerone5
    Why does he still have the jwwatch.org text on his videos? The site is dead

    He also still have a link to a his Twitter account that he deleted , but now someone else is using it to make fun of him . That coming from a guy that had a hissy fit about his " Legacy " .

    Guess he's taking a "brake" on his legacy too ... to bad he doesn't do that with his stupid lawsuit


  • ForeverAlone
    ForeverAlone

    OMG Simon!!! Those are spot on in describing Lloyd Evans! I especially liked the second and third one!

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    I can totally see him going back to Thailand and doing a “Return to Thailand” mini-documentary. Nothing pleases a narcissist more than demonstrating everyone how wrong they are. Look for footage with elephants, eating at nice restaurants, scuba diving, beach combing and him “interviewing” locals such as the tour guide about how racist the connection between Thailand and sex tourism is and how much more it has to offer. Also look for the pity piece where he revisits the site of where he supposedly contemplated suicide.

    That whole “feeling suicidal in Thailand” angle never felt right to me, especially when you consider how blatant and hurtful his behaviour was before that. He was doing what he wanted! He was there for two months, he wasn’t hiding anything anymore and even made the wife buy him condoms as an exclamation point and an added fuck you. He had the entire exJW community in shock and eager to please him. At 890 patrons he had more than enough to live there for two months and still keep the family in Sisak fed.

    Suicide doesn’t fit in with this narrative. I think he threw that in there so everyone would feel sorry for him, encourage him to stay longer and enjoy himself.

    He had his wife on the ropes so he thought. In the letter to her he even quoted her as saying that when he returns he would have a home. He was fully enabled and getting away with it. What else could he have wanted?

    If the suicidal thoughts were real, they would have occurred AFTER the 12 January 2022 letter where the wife stated she wanted a divorce. Not on New Years when he had still thought he had successfully duped everyone into thinking he needed this for “mental health”.

  • Simon
    Simon
    Those are spot on in describing Lloyd Evans! I especially liked the second and third one!

    I know, right? It's almost like he's a caricature prototypical example that would be invented for use in a text-book. It's uncanny.

    That whole “feeling suicidal in Thailand” angle never felt right to me

    Me neither, it's just stunningly convenient to press the "mental health!" button as a get-out, and people who weaponize claims to be suicidal are absolute shits IMO, especially when they do it publicly. Early on I read about how to deal with people making suicidal posts on the forum and best practice is usually to remove them because people making them rarely are and are just doing it for attention but they can have a very real and negative effect on people who may seriously be contemplating it and suffering in silence.

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    He was feeling sorry for himself during the livestream. He 'broke down' when he was reading the message he wrote about feeling that everything was pointless. Then he started talking about his family and the tears dried up instantly.

    I do think he was already growing tired of the exJW video grind, though. He was always dumping on exJWs as a group. It has only increased in the past two years. I think he wanted to move on from Watchtower-related stuff. And I don't think it would have worked out well. He would still have a stressful home life, or he would have eventually left home and be in a similar position to where he is now- wanting to be free from the responsibilities of a husband and father, but still obligated financially to his wife and daughters.

    I think it would have blown up on him at some point, though probably not as bad as it has thanks to the livestream video. And I just can't see where he would have carved out a successful niche for himself. He's just not driven enough. I think he was doomed to failure. He has had the misfortune of accelerating it by making a lot of bad decisions in a short time. But I think he would have eventually burned out and probably gone down in flames.

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas

    He 'broke down' when he was reading the message he wrote about feeling that everything was pointless

    He'd make for a poor poker player because I saw that coming from a mile away.

    Generally speaking when you are conjuring up an emotional breakdown on camera, one does NOT want to give up the ghost that one is well on the way,

    Lloyd: "Uhm, this is going to be hard to read... uhm, because..."

    He was priming the pump for tears, because as a psychopath, tears do not come easily and only then when he is speaking about something he himself finds upsetting.

    The fact that he visibly struggled for tears over alleged suicidal feelings leads me to believe they weren't even there and that WhatsApp text he was quoting from was in itself a play for attention and sympathy.

    If those suicidal feelings were real he would have struggled to STOP the sobbing. Instead he could only manage a few brief bursts and lifted his finger so he could look at how his performance was going down in the live chat.

  • DerekMoors
    DerekMoors
    I do think he was already growing tired of the exJW video grind, though. He was always dumping on exJWs as a group. It has only increased in the past two years. I think he wanted to move on from Watchtower-related stuff.

    What he wanted was to be Leah Remini volume 2. His own TV show, cameras following him everywhere, hanging on to his every word, crying his crocodile tears when needed, walking the red carpet and getting an Emmy for blowing the lid off the Watchtower and assorted cults.

    He's only ever wanted two things; adulation and money.

    Now he's interviewing other YouTubers with 131 subscribers. No disrespect to this last guy, god love anyone out there trying, but you know damn well Lloyd is not where he expected to be right now.

  • Toblerone5
    Toblerone5
    Funny how on Nov.5 \ Nov 13 he had 427 Patrons , then (Nov 14) it went down to 424 and it's still that number even though he just release a new video...
  • ElderBerry
    ElderBerry

    In his latest interview they talk about the unofficial audio of Crisis of Conscience.

    He makes a creepy laugh and says “the copyright holder didn’t like that” DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THAT LLOYD? After everything that happened and you trying to break the law and steal from the copyright holder?

    well of course a law abiding person does not like someone breaking the law, why would any decent law abiding person have a problem with that? Unless you have no conscience Lloyd.

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