I am certainly not a creationist, but I can think of an argument. Am I eligible to take up your challenge? - Shepherdless
Perhaps if we can't find a believer to publicly defend their faith we could do it for the metal exercise. I would prefer to find a real creationist if possible.
Are evolution and creation mutually exclusive? - Sanchy
Really good question Sanchy. I would say yes but with one exception.
There is a position known as "theistic evolution" that is scientifically and intellectually reasonable. It is the sort of position advocated by Francis Collins and Ken Miller. the latter wrote the book "Finding Darwin's God". The key to theistic evolution is that you are not allowed EVER to insert god to help evolution over any difficult hurdles. It posits that god set the starting conditions and has not tinkered since then. It accepts that there are naturalistic answers to every question in the history of life. It is not the same as Deism as it believes fully in an immanent theistic god. The usual arguments from design or complexity are not an option for theistic evolution.
Apart from that every other attempt to reconcile creation and evolution turns out to be bad theology and even worse science.
Whence evil? Now, I've got another one: Why evil? - Snowbird
I would love to discuss secular morality anytime but it has absolutely nothing to do with biological evolution. By the way have you managed to remember the titles or authors of even one of the many books you claimed to have read on the subject?
Cofty hasn't been able to refute my points with science and just uses phrases like 'it's bucket chemistry - KateW
You already know that you are being dishonest. I have explained the answer to your question about homochirality in considerable detail more than once and referred you to the work of a Japanese scientist who solved the puzzle. It is a common tactic of creationists to ignore an answer, wait a few weeks and then post the same objection as if it had not been answered.
Vidqun - You seem to be proposing the topic of the development of eukaryotic cells as your evidence against evolution and for creationism.
Is that correct?
I would prefer to discuss how every species evolved from a common ancestor - fish to humans if you like. The origin of the first complex cells are a prelude to the main show.
If you really want to make complex cells the first topic let me know and I will accept. You would need to define a specific question. Don't post anything on the topic yet. I will start a new thread. Since the topic is outside my comfort zone I would want to extend the time allowed for my reply. I will need to do some revision but I will not resort to copy-paste or links/videos.
Will you also agree to respond to a question of my choosing under the same rules?
