What is your opinion of the news media?
by minimus 491 Replies latest social current
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freemindfade
The problem with our media is not that we have let them get too out of control, its that we have let government get to damn big.
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LoveUniHateExams
And Trump's ideas are to promote Russia as a friendly 2nd cousin to the United States? - if correct, what's wrong with this?
The Cold War ended 25 years ago.
By calling them "fake news" yes he has[tried to shut down the media] - no, he hasn't. Both left and right media are allowed to spout their bullshit, and are allowed to accurately report news and give sensible opinions on it ...
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compound complex
A little journalistic history, which is new to me:
The Spanish-American War is often referred to as the first "media war." During the 1890s, journalism that sensationalized—and sometimes even manufactured—dramatic events was a powerful force that helped propel the United States into war with Spain. Led by newspaper owners William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer, journalism of the 1890s used melodrama, romance, and hyperbole to sell millions of newspapers--a style that became known as yellow journalism.
The term yellow journalism came from a popular New York World comic called "Hogan's Alley," which featured a yellow-dressed character named the "the yellow kid." Determined to compete with Pulitzer's World in every way, rival New York Journal owner William Randolph Hearst copied Pulitzer's sensationalist style and even hired "Hogan's Alley" artist R.F. Outcault away from the World. In response, Pulitzer commissioned another cartoonist to create a second yellow kid. Soon, the sensationalist press of the 1890s became a competition between the "yellow kids," and the journalistic style was coined "yellow journalism."
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Simon
The problem with our media is not that we have let them get too out of control, its that we have let government get to damn big.
Both of those things can be true.
Ben Shapiro is usually pretty good. Although he's obviously conservative, he's more than happy to criticize both Trump and any other Republican.
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freemindfade
The collusion with major media channels and government is as despicable as mixing church and state.
One point I love from that video is: the good news is there is no gatekeeper, that bad news is, there is no gate keeper.
I think it is fair to say that major monopolies in media have the governments hands too far down their pants.
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bohm
And Trump's ideas are to promote Russia as a friendly 2nd cousin to the United States? - if correct, what's wrong with this?
The Cold War ended 25 years ago.That line has become awfully popular.
What is wrong with bombing civilians in Syria?
What is wrong with invading Crimea and keeping it?
What is wrong with currently shelling civilians deep inside Ukraine?
What is wrong with trying to assassinate the head of state in Montenegro as they sought membership in Nato? What bad has ever come out of an assassination in the Balkans?
What is wrong with giving your thugs in Ukraine a BUK missile they use to shoot down MH17?
What is wrong with having your cyber operatives cover up your involvement? what is wrong with messing with the investigation?
What is wrong with having an organized troll factory crapfloat EU social media with agipop?
What is wrong with keeping pro-Kremlin troll and accused rapist Assange afloat?
What is wrong with waging a year-long cyber war on the US election?
What is wrong with hacking computers belonging to two major parties in the US with the intention of disrupting the election?
What is wrong with hacking infrastructure related to the US election? (voting databases)
What is wrong with colluding with right-wing parties across Europe? What bad has ever come out of right-wing extremism on the European continent?
What is wrong with exporting Islamists to ISIS in Syria? Surely this is in everyones best interest
What is wrong with killing a few journalists here and there?
What is wrong with that? Cold war ended 25 years ago...
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freemindfade
The Russia thing is an example of bipartisan hypocrisy, when it's the Dems the republicans bitch, when it's the republicans the Dems bitch and so on and so on ... back and forth back and forth
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AllTimeJeff
Freemindfade, got busy working. I'll respond later, other than to leave you with this for the moment...
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Have words to thank for their positions
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'Cause when their eloquence escapes you
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bohm
freemindfade:
can you explain that further? Obama, placed sanctions on Russia together with the GOP controlled congress. Regardless of party, everyone seemed to believe that was a good idea at the time given what Russia was doing.
btw, your response, "yes but whatabout...". What do you think is the right thing to do with Russia?