How do you feel about Brexit?

by SydBarrett 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    It’s a complete disaster as fas as I’m concerned

    ^^^ But this isn't just down to the incompetence of British politicians such as Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. EU politicians must also take some blame.

    Still, it's good that the will of the UK electorate has been taken into consideration


  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    How do you feel about Brexit?

    I'm glad that the will of the UK electorate has been accepted and acted upon, and that the UK has become independent of the EU (which was foisted upon us without any referendum!).

    Yes, Brexit could and should have been handled better, but the only option available in 2019 among the political mainstream was the tories. There was no other Brexit offered to us at the time by Labour or the Lib Dems.

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    I’m not sure where you get your figures, but consumer inflation overall has remained lower in the UK vs US or EU since Brexit.

    Yes, the overall inflation number tracks higher and lower in some months but food and fuel inflation is lower across the board, although the EU artificially reduced their numbers by keeping interest rates low, which looks great on paper but if you’re not adjusting to the market, you’re basically pumping the economy by printing money, eventually that will have to end.

    Doesn’t help the Bank of England does everything in its power to create higher inflation (similar QE policies than the US) but most of the inflation according to Statista is in the area of taxes/duties (paying more for the state to do less, eg. NHS which has doubled its cost compared to its revenue in the last few years).

  • cofty
    cofty

    The EU is a greedy, unaccountable, authoritarian, corrupt bureaucracy. It's clearly stated intention is to dissolve all European national states and create a United States of Europe led by unelected elites.

    We were given the opportunity to opt out and we took it.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Cofty, for once I must accuse you of what Monty Python would call " Statin' the Bleedin' Obvious".

    Yes, most thinking people did not like the way the E.U was going Politically, but of course now we have no way to influence or control that.

    And standing aside as we did, we will still feel the adverse affects of any false political move they make, so opting out from that point of view is hardly a "Brexit benefit".

    But cutting ourselves off from a huge market, with nothing viable to replace it, was pure lunacy.

  • cofty
    cofty

    We never had any influence or control. The EU parliament is a sham. DC begged them for a few concessions in order to head off a referendum and they told him to F Off.

    Americans, imagine you joined a trading group with most of North, central and south America. A few decades later it has a flag, anthem and proposing and army. It is dictating many of your laws and financial policies including an incredible number of petty rules. It demands open borders within the group and directs immigration from outside.

    It openly states that its aim is total political Union. You are given an opportunity to leave but it will cost you in the short to medium term. What do you decide?

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    But cutting ourselves off from a huge market - but we haven't done that. The UK and the EU can still trade, plus we can trade with Australia, Singapore, NZ, Malaysia, etc etc.

    Long story short we have opportunities outside the EU, right

  • cofty
    cofty

    Also Google 'EU corruption scandal '.

    It is an organised crime gang.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    Trade with Europe has become so mired in difficulty that many companies in the U.K have either ceased to trade altogether, or are taking huge losses because of it.

    We can Trade with the rest of the World, but transporting goods from that far is hardly helping the planet, costs are MUCH higher, unless you are buying shit. Exporting to the other side of the World does not compare with what we had either.

  • Nikolaus
    Nikolaus
    EU politicians must also take some blame.

    EU has precisely zero stakes in Brexit.

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