by gavindlt 14 Replies latest watchtower bible
dear wozza...
Jesus was body, soul and spirit. His soul & spirit were perfectly in tune with the Fathers law & will. His body didn't need to be perfect, nor could it be. His body became perfect when it was "glorified" in the resurrection. It is that soul & spirit that had pre-existance with the Father.
michelle
The expressions "begotten" and "Son" were borrowed Hebrewisms from the Patriarchs and Davidic dynasty psalms, such as Psalm 2, where God tells David (and each member of his house) that anyone who would sit on his throne in that dynasty would become a "son" or an "incarnation" of God to the people of Israel. This type of terminology was used by other cultures such as the Greek and Roman rulers who would in later centuries call themselves "son of god," or "begotten" of a deity, not meaning they were a child but an incarnation of their own heathen and pagan gods on earth. The New Testament writers of the gospel used these expressions as they struggled to explain finding God in Jesus since they were Jews who at the same time believed in the unbreakable centrality of the Shema. Thus they referred to Jesus as God in those terms--an "incarnation"--using those particular Hebrewisms since Judaism didn't have the word "incarnation" as it was Latin and they were as of yet unfamiliar with the tongue and the Pagan religion from which it originated.
As to the make up of the states, that is more of a religious question belonging to denominational makeup and division. Most in Christianity believe Jesus was fully human and fully divine, but since God is Ineffable, how this works is thus beyond comprehension in most of these religious theologies.
According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church, the Scripture text at Genesis 1:26-27 wherein one finds the words "let us make" is not just about Jesus but has long been held by all branches of mainstream Christianity as pointing to the likely involvement of each person of the Trinity, including the Holy Spirit and the Father, in creation.--CCC 307, 1942, 2402.
As to the "antichrist," this is generally understood in Scripture and theology as a psuedo-messianic figure or deception, usually one that is expected to appear before the eschatological conclusion to history.
Jesus was body, soul and spirit. His soul & spirit were perfectly in tune with the Fathers law & will. His body didn't need to be perfect, nor could it be. His body became perfect when it was "glorified" in the resurrection. It is that soul & spirit that had pre-existance with the Father.
AAAh--soul.
and you know all the above--how ?
myelaine
"Jesus was body, soul and spirit. His soul & spirit were perfectly in tune with the Fathers law & will. His body didn't need to be perfect, nor could it be. His body became perfect when it was "glorified" in the resurrection. It is that soul & spirit that had pre-existance with the Father. "
Thank you for your response ,This is where different peoples interpretations come into it ,so Jesus was flesh like us but how a spirit and a soul? Some would say his spirit was what went to heaven but then did he leave his body and soul behind on earth? Others might have a different view that the soul and spirit are but the same thing so we are back to jesus having 2 components , a soul/spirit and a flesh body.
I wonder what the bible really says and is it any wonder that there are so many confusing teachings from people who believe in the same source of their belief - the bible.
Is this 3 component Jesus the result of catholic original teaching?
What about a person being descibed AS A soul or dead soul?
How can any person reaching out to the bible for hope comfort and belief just accept a flavor of christianity when the essence of divinity is descibed in different ways ?
Where in the bible does it say Jesus's soul and spirit were in line with the fathers will apart from his body when he was on earth?
The new testament is the realization that Jesus was the visible manifestion of YWHW in old testament. The fire in the burning bush, the cloud rider in the book of Daniel, the fire in the sky in the book of Exodus, the angel of the LORD, the word of the LORD.
The ambiguous use of the tetragrammaton in the new testament is by design, not corruption.
This failure to understand this basic concept is what makes the WTS special in a stupid way.
