"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy 114 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Fisherman - "...in the late 1980's, the WTS changed its teaching on the length of each Creative Day to millions and millions of years..."

    No, they didn't...

    ...they just conceded to use the phrase "many thousands of years".

    And they had to wait until Freddy Franz kicked the bucket just to do that much.

    Fisherman - "...the WTS also teaches now that the earth is billions of years old..."

    No, they don't...

    ...they simply concede that "the Bible Student has no quarrel with that".

    And they certainly don't "teach" it.

    Fisherman - "...in light of the facts..."

    You mean the absolute reams of evidence compiled by over a century of painstaking research by dedicated researchers in virtually every field of the natural sciences?

    How insightful and forward-thinking of them.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    No, they didn't...

    ...they just conceded to use the phrase "many thousands of years".

    And they had to wait until Freddy Franz kicked the bucket just to do that much.

    It has always been axiomatic that since the 7th Creative day is thousands of years long (according to wt) wt also always concluded and taught that all days of creation are of equal lengths (7000 each). The Insight book, published in 1988, prior to the death of FF, says so, in fact that is what 1975 was about. What the insight book does not say is that the days are of equal lengths and the wording allows for varying lengths. However, it is in print or was in print that "yom" was or could have been millions of years old and of varying lengths. The WT are not scientists and have not taken the scientific measurements or estimates that show how old is the earth or the universe so of course they are not in the business of teaching science but regardless of how you word or describe what teaching means, the wt printed that the Creative days could have been or were millions of years old of varying lengths. It is also in print that the earth is billions of years old. One article that comes to mind talks about how looking into the sky is looking into the past because it took the light of stars millions of years to reach the earth. Who knows with certainty how old is the earth, not even science but science bases their conclusions on evidence, wt and everybody else accepts verifiable evidence.

    You mean the absolute reams of evidence compiled by over a century of painstaking research by dedicated researchers in virtually every field of the natural sciences?

    How insightful and forward-thinking of them

    WT is not in the science field, it is in the field of understanding the Bible; (verifiable) science shed's light on Bible interpretation not (speculative) science.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Fisherman - "WT is not in the science field, it is in the field of understanding the Bible; (verifiable) science shed's light on Bible interpretation."

    Okay, then.

    So what happens when said verifiable science directly contradicts virtually every possible understanding or interpretation of the Bible?

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    So what happens when said verifiable science directly contradicts virtually every possible interpretation you could come up with?

    What you mean to say is: What if verifiable science could directly contradict virtually every possible interpretation you could come up with? That is a hypothesis.

    What if God communicated WITH YOU PERSONALLY in some way congruent to how the Bible says He did with Moses?

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Fisherman - "What if God communicated WITH YOU PERSONALLY in some way congruent with how the Bible says He did with Moses?"

    I'd check myself into the psych ward.

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    Verifiable proof can be measured by yourself and others not subject to the senses.

  • Ding
    Ding

    Even while they acknowledge that the GB is not infallible or inspired, the vast majority of JWs think the GB is right about the Bible prohibiting them from "eating blood."

    Even worse, they think that people who die because they refuse blood are virtually guaranteed a resurrection and that they are therefore far better off than people who survive by taking blood.

    It's the ultimate in the WT's "endure faithful to the end" mindset.

  • Simon
    Simon

    "We're not inspired" say the GB ... and then have a rule that if you don't believe they are inspired (god's representatives on earth) you will be expelled and lose all friends and family.

    But then if they are inspired, then their claim not to be inspired must be true ... meaning they are not inspired.

    What a bunch of legalese.

  • Ding
    Ding

    When a JW tells you that the GB are humble men who don't claim to be infallible or inspired, ask them to name one current WT teaching they think is wrong.

    Their silence will speak volumes.

  • Simon
    Simon

    The GB and JWs are becoming more and more like the followers in Monty Python's Life of Brian, believing everything, even when it's an immediate and direct contradiction with the last claim.

    "OK, I am the messiah" "He is! he is!"

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