I thought I would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention. I am in the yard. The gals get out and are wearing pants. I say, you are wearing pants and they acknowlege that. Anyway, I don't know how we got into it, but It we got into religion and money and war ( they brought up Catholics going to war, but what does the Bible say. Me: thou shall not kill. So I was asking them, how they would feel about a religion that made money from the war effort since they didn't go to war. Well they agreed that would be wrong. And what about making money from stocks in tobacco, porn, and war machinery . That would be wrong. How about expecting governments to give them state moneys? Where did Jesus get money. me: from his followers helping ( I didn't think to say he worked as a carpenter before his minsitry. I said some governments gave money to religions that meet their standards. ) I said well what about a religion that didn't meet a country's standard still expecting the government to give them money. They thought that wrong. So I told them they could look it up secularly, but JW made money on the mentioned things and were suing Norway for Money. Where did I get that? Me: I saw the tax records online for the stocks (I told them to look it up , Marrietta Riley Trust fund They make money on the war machinery, big pharma- ( had to throw in the poison jabs killed my sister.) ( that appears ok with them because it was given to them -I wish I had thought to mention, the early Christians got rid of bad things even though worth a lot of money. ) I got to tell them that in 1919 the lie of millions now living would never die and the world would end in 1925. This was being preached when Jesus chose them as his spokesmen on earth. ( of course , I got the new light sermon. ) Them : a man had written the book that was in. ( Duh! ) See how deep the programming goes! They wanted me to research and study yadayada. I said since you like to research, you should research what was being taught in 1919 that the became the chosen people, I also threw in The Walsh trial in Scotland where if your Bible taught you one thing and you disagreed with WT, you were deserving of death. At some point, they wanted to know where I got this info. Me: online. One said online they think there is big foot and lock nest monster. Says I: I believe they exist. How does this end? the man got out of the car and came around and said, he perceived I didn't like JWs and they had to get going. I said that I did like JWs ( a do a individuals, but not the lying religion but I didn't say that. I told them to come back anytime. ( I won't hold my breathe.) I did play ignorant and ask where the scripture about the light getting brighter was and she showed me and I ask for context and read it...and it went over her head!!! I like the people and feel sorry for them.
JW s were here today with convention invite
by enoughisenough 25 Replies latest jw experiences
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fezzik
Awesome encounter. Just a quick note, it's the Henrietta M Riley Trust. They won't look it up, but if there's a slight chance any do, it's good to get it right.
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LongHairGal
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:
That was good of you to tell all of this to those Witnesses.
Unfortunately, most Witnesses are in a news blackout - either because they are told not to read anything OR they are depressed and can’t deal with anything.. As a result, they really don’t know much about the world - let alone the history of their own religion.
Notice how they had to keep asking “where did you hear that” when you gave them a few facts. I don’t even feel sorry for them and feel that in 2024 if anybody is ignorant about the Jehovah’s Witness religion, it is by choice.
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enoughisenough
fezzik, I may have told them correctly and wrote it incorrectly here. At anyrate, thanks for the catch and the advise
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enoughisenough
LongHairGal...I agree there is no excuse for their ignorance at this stage of the game, They do refuse to look at anything that throws shade on the org. But, they have been so duped!I had "friends" that I wish would wake up. They work so hard for their 9 headed god. Hopefully something will come up and they will start questioning just because a seed was planted. They clearly had no knowledge of that which I spoke. As for the trust fund -I told them it was on a tax record that they could look up and it shows the WT as receiving the moneys and also showed the companies in question.
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Riley
The Irony is the theme of the assembly is " Sharing the Good News " or the the gospel.
JWs have no gospel. Heck, the new testament isn't even written for them. It is just for the annointed who are represented by the faithful slave.
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enoughisenough
I am thinking I was one of their more interesting encounters in the invite work! So do you think they go tell some of their friends of the weirdo they met today or do they keep their mouth shut rather than relate what i said? It is possible they will figure out I am "apostate" to them. Maybe not! I wish they would come back. I have more to say.
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Sea Breeze
You brought out 2-3 very logical points, planted some seeds, and let them know there are people out there that are not JW's that do care about truth and authenticity. I'd call that a home run.
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NotFormer
Is a convention invitation extended to people outside the organisation? I thought it was a JW only thing (or is it the assemblies that are exclusive?). Do they go door to door handing out invitations?
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a watcher
Yes.