10/31 New York Times, "They’re Giving Scammers All Their Money. The Kids Can’t Stop Them." Has Watchtower scammed your family?

by Balaamsass2 20 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    The seniors in our family were scammed by Watchtower, for over 7 figures. How about yours? An interesting read today to give some insight.

    One of the most egregious con-artists is Watchtower Bible and Tract Society the “legal” entity for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Many retired Jehovah’s Witnesses have been targeted over the years to “LOAN” money for various “special projects” to further the “preaching work”, only to find they are never to be repaid. Once potential targets are identified, Watchtower sends experienced JW financial salesmen to "Close" the "sale". Eventual requests for repayment are ignored repeatedly. Letters go unanswered. Phone calls are never returned. Eventually, certified letters implying legal action get VERBALLY answered claiming: “The loan was forgiven verbally by the senior, in a private conversation with the local Circuit Overseer”-(despite the senior JW suffering from cognitive decline). Of course, requestors are reminded of the consequences of involving court action against “the brothers”.

    In our personal situation, after consulting with two law firms, our attorneys explained the multiple hurdles in pursuing Watchtower, even though the injured senior was cognitively impaired, AT THE TIME and had already given her child power of attorney. The professional legal opinion? Statute of limitation issues, out of state representation against a billion dollar corporation, and need to put an impaired Senior on the witness stand, made recovery expensive and unlikely, since Watchtower had already showed zero compassion or conscience for the elderly JW widow in question. What was Watchtowers official verbal phone response? : "Put her on Welfare".

    Why would an aged Jehovah’s Witness “loan” Watchtower their retirement Next Egg? The NYT story explains: Quote: “For many people, what is going on is they are looking to fulfill an unmet need for companionship, an unmet need for financial security, an unmet need for a purpose,” said Marti DeLiema, an interdisciplinary gerontologist and assistant professor at the University of Minnesota’s School of Social Work, who researches financial fraud and exploitation.

    Victims are often caught up in fantasies created by perpetrators, isolating them from their real-life existence and families.”…… .” Older people may also be more susceptible to the mind games that scammers are so adept at playing — using fear, creating a sense of urgency or even stirring up excitement over the prospects of a new romance or investment opportunity.( Or Paradise earth?)

    The goal is to tip victims into a heightened state of emotion where they are no longer thinking rationally but reacting to those appeals, researchers at the Stanford Center on Longevity, the FINRA Investor Education Foundation and the AARP Fraud Watch Network found.

    “They are looking for the victim’s emotional Achilles’ heel,” said Doug Shadel, managing director for Fraud Prevention Strategies, a consulting firm in Seattle, and a former state director for AARP Washington.”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/31/business/scam-con-artist-family-savings.html?unlocked_article_code=1.WU4.Sq1h.9M2qaeO0jK-T&smid=url-share

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Too many people think they’re entitled to their parents’ money, and get very annoyed if they start spending it instead, is another side of the story.

  • Dagney
    Dagney

    Inheritances are Biblical. Should one expect? It's up to the individual on that.

    My mom also was so proud to be able to loan to a project that she could never get back when she really needed it. At least my brother and I were in a position to take care of her. Yes it was her wish, but it was elder abuse in my book. She also thought she'd have a swiss chalet and pet panda.

    They are quite keen and active in the wills and trust games.

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange
    My mom also was so proud to be able to loan to a project that she could never get back when she really needed it.

    So was my father not long after his reinstatement. Soon he again was an MS. He was approached (without my mother's presence) and asked if he wanted to just cancel the loan and consider it a gift.

    Follow the money!

  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    SBF "Too many people think they’re entitled to their parents’ money, and get very annoyed if they start spending it instead".

    Having a punk kid from Bethel tell me to "Put her on Welfare" is what was "annoying" to me. I did remind HQ "the bible commands followers over 70 times to care for widows and orphans".

    In this widows' case, after being the recipient of more than a million dollars, Watchtower left her PENYLESS, and unable to afford basic dental care. She moved in with us for some time and we paid her expenses. Eventually we had to take out an equity line to pay her increasing expenses.

    I have seen this occur to other families.

  • DesirousOfChange
  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    D O C Yes, Watchtower's only fulfilled "prophecy". The Truth about the Truth. :)

  • jhine
    jhine

    DoC most religions are nothing like the WT .

    SlimboyFat you're right, but when people believe that they are loaning money and get ripped off that is very different to knowingly spending Johnny's inheritance.

    Jan from Tam

  • 3rdgen
    3rdgen

    It is LYING to call these loans when Watchtower had no intention of ever paying them back.

    Who does the Bible call the "Father of the Lie" ?

  • moomanchu
    moomanchu

    Replace Heaven with paradise.

    Song by Sammy Hagar
    I'm saving my money, and buying my way into Heaven
    My T.V. Evangalist showed me the way into Heaven
    Now make no mistake, and I won't be forsaken (in Heaven)
    Save all of my pay, at the end of a day to (Heaven)
    Pack all my belongs, and send them away (Heaven)
    Yes, I'll do without, so my lord can be richer (Heaven)
    I'll be laughin', and jokin', and drinkin', and toastin' him (grunt)
    (Heaven)
    Buying my way into
    Buying my way into
    Buying my way into Heaven
    Walking down streets lined with silver and gold in (Heaven)
    One snap of a finger, the wish will unfold in (Heaven)
    Yes I'll walk like a king, through those pearly gates, into (Heaven)
    Just give what you can to the church, and they'll save you
    AAAH!
    (Heaven)
    Buying my way into
    Buying my way into
    Buying my way into Heaven
    (Whoo!..... grunt)
    (Ooooh)
    {guitar solo}
    Saving my money, and buying my way into (Heaven)
    My T.V. Evangalist showed me the way (Heaven)
    And all my possessions are well under way to (Heaven)
    If you give to the church, you'll get twice what you give, in return

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