by StinkyPantz 24 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Sounds reasonable to me.....which is why he *thought* he could *cure* people.
The scriptures say he 'did' cure people, not just 'thought' he did. So there goes that part of the theory.
I believe in the accounts of the scriptures, but there are those who don't believe in the scriptures. For arguments sake, if the scriptures are false, then so too would be anything that would indicate that Jesus was Schizophrenic.
Stinky,
Watch your words girl, I'm not one to be mocked. Incidentally, I was schizophrenic when I was younger, but the doctors tell me that they have never seen anyone respond so well to intense chemical therapy and electro-shock treatment.
I came away feeling like a new person (maybe not quite the right words, but you know what I mean.
cheeses - the light of your life, and a soothing to your soul.
Double Edge-
For arguments sake, if the scriptures are false, then so too would be anything that would indicate that Jesus was Schizophrenic.
I beg to differ. I don't think that ALL of the scriptures are false. I believe that a man named Jesus claiming to be "god" or "god's son" most likely lived and was a very charasmatic speaker who won over people and gave them hope. The scriptures agree with this. The part that I do not believe is that he was a supernatural being. I'd hate to think that he deliberately mislead people, so the only other way to go is that he truly believed what he said due to mental defect.
Holey Cheeses-
It was not my intention to mock you. I only want people to get to know the real you.
StinkyPantz,
- Jesus heard the voice of "god": Many schizophrenics have audible hallucinations (often god). Jesus thought he was "god"/"god's son": Schizophrenics often have delusions of grandeur (I'm god, god talks to me, I rule the world, etc.)
I don't think that ALL of the scriptures are false. I believe that a man named Jesus claiming to be "god" or "god's son" most likely lived and was a very charasmatic speaker who won over people and gave them hope. The scriptures agree with this. The part that I do not believe is that he was a supernatural being.
If we stick to what is actually attributed to having been stated by Jesus, most will be surprised. You will find HE never claimed to be God, never claimed to be born of a virgin, no angels announcing his arrival, no special childhood, he claimed to be the ‘son of man’ and as you acknowledge he was a son of God like anyone else is a child of God. He never wrote a thing, did not authorize or even suggest any writing, did not start a new religion, did not call it Christianity, gave no instructions for replacing the Jewish system he was bring to an end, no commands regarding meeting together, how are when to meet, what to do if his followers met.
You may say but his followers said all these things about him. Maybe. While I believe Jesus was a great man and had something important to teach us, what we have today is a very biased and corrupted account of it. A simple search into where we got the Bible makes this clear. Marks Gospel account is the oldest and most reliable, the rest are filled with mythology and exaggeration while Johns account did not show up for almost 200 years and is clearly more mythology and Platonism than the account of the great teacher.
I do not want to damage anyone’s faith in the bible. There is great information there, but the reality is e ven Jesus would be disgusted with the bible account of his message. And the message stands on its own without the mythology and human theology stuffed into the package.
Jst2laws
Stink,
You have a mouth on you like no other around here. Please try to remember to be considerate of those who love Jesus and believe that He is the Son of God. You don't have to agree but atleast be considerate of others, ok? I have not seen the Christians mocking you for your unbelief (with the exception of perhaps a few, I don't know for sure) Please don't mock those who believe. Freedom is speech is your right but it needs to be combined with common sense and consideration and atleast a drop of tolerance. dj
DJ-
What? How am I being inconsiderate; by proposing a theory that you don't agree with? Would you say the same things if I proposed that Muhammed imagined talking to "god"? I doubt it. Nowhere have I been rude. I was simply giving an alternate theory to yours. As far as Christians never mocking me, you must be joking! If you need me to, I'll give you about a dozen examples.
Please show me where I was rude.
And explain this: "You have a mouth on you like no other around here"
Think about it Stink.
I have thought about it. Do you think it's rude when people insist "god" is real; and offer theories to support their ideas? I'm sure that's fine with you because you agree with them.
| DJ | Re: Was Jesus Schizophrenic? | |
| Think about it Stink. | ||
| StinkyPantz | Re: Was Jesus Schizophrenic? | |
DJ- What? How am I being inconsiderate; by proposing a theory that you don't agree with? Would you say the same things if I proposed that Muhammed imagined talking to "god"? I doubt it. Nowhere have I been rude. I was simply giving an alternate theory to yours. As far as Christians never mocking me, you must be joking! If you need me to, I'll give you about a dozen examples. Please show me where I was rude. And explain this: "You have a mouth on you like no other around here" | ||
| DJ | Re: Was Jesus Schizophrenic? | |
Stink, You have a mouth on you like no other around here. Please try to remember to be considerate of those who love Jesus and believe that He is the Son of God. You don't have to agree but atleast be considerate of others, ok? I have not seen the Christians mocking you for your unbelief (with the exception of perhaps a few, I don't know for sure) Please don't mock those who believe. Freedom is speech is your right but it needs to be combined with common sense and consideration and atleast a drop of tolerance. dj | ||
| jst2laws | Re: Was Jesus Schizophrenic? | |
StinkyPantz,
I don't think that ALL of the scriptures are false. I believe that a man named Jesus claiming to be "god" or "god's son" most likely lived and was a very charasmatic speaker who won over people and gave them hope. The scriptures agree with this. The part that I do not believe is that he was a supernatural being. If we stick to what is actually attributed to having been stated by Jesus, most will be surprised. You will find HE never claimed to be God, never claimed to be born of a virgin, no angels announcing his arrival, no special childhood, he claimed to be the ‘son of man’ and as you acknowledge he was a son of God like anyone else is a child of God. He never wrote a thing, did not authorize or even suggest any writing, did not start a new religion, did not call it Christianity, gave no instructions for replacing the Jewish system he was bring to an end, no commands regarding meeting together, how are when to meet, what to do if his followers met. You may say but his followers said all these things about him. Maybe. While I believe Jesus was a great man and had something important to teach us, what we have today is a very biased and corrupted account of it. A simple search into where we got the Bible makes this clear. Marks Gospel account is the oldest and most reliable, the rest are filled with mythology and exaggeration while Johns account did not show up for almost 200 years and is clearly more mythology and Platonism than the account of the great teacher. I do not want to damage anyone’s faith in the bible. There is great information there, but the reality is even Jesus would be disgusted with the bible account of his message. And the message stands on its own without the mythology and human theology stuffed into the package. Jst2laws | ||
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LOL, sorry above the above lil post. I don't know if I could manage that again if I tried.....
I don't think it is rude to profess belief in God or to offer 'theories' to support it. Do you think it's rude of them? I see a big difference between that and your insinuation that the Son of God had mental disorders. You are a well known intolerant, argumentative aethist on this board. I don't bother you but I just ask that you try to consider the feelings of others who may be insulted by your remarks. I agree with Sword of Jah and that doesn't happen too often. I am sure that all of the Christians here would be offended and consider your comment to be blasphemy, as well. You know full well what you are doing before you write stuff, unless you really don't think before you open your mouth. In that case perhaps your innocent on the grounds of stupidity but I think that you do know that your comments inflame some here and you do it on purpose. I'm done here.
