What would happen to a JW for celebrating Christmas?

by Vanderhoven7 42 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    Mark Jones writes:

    If they were spied upon and it was reported to the elders they’d be “invited” to a Judicial Committee whereupon they’d be cross examined in a locked backroom by three men acting as judge and jury to decide if they are guilty.

    If the elders decide that they are guilty, they’ll then decide if the person is sorry. If they decide the person is not sorry (which is common) they’ll disfellowship them for “apostasy” or they could claim that the person has disassociated by their actions.

    Elders secret guidebook Shepherd The Flock Of God, chapter 12, para. 39 (page 92).

    They will be announced from the platform as “no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses” without telling the members that it was for simply celebrating 25th December and the congregation will understand that this means they’re supposed to pretend the person is invisible from now on.

    The person would then lose all of their Jehovah’s Witness family and “friends” and they’ll assume that the person must have be disfellowshipped because they committed a “gross sin” and were unrepentant.

    If they wish to return they’ll have to keep attending meetings for about a year while being treated like dirt and being gossipped about and then write a grovelling letter to the elders begging to be reinstated. The elders can decide to make them wait as long as they wish. It’s a real power trip for them.

    Bit harsh wouldn’t you say?

    Footnotes

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    My take:

    Shouldn't Christians be encouraged to celebrate Christ's birth every day? Don't give the devil any day of the year. In fact we should celebrate everything about Christs life and accomplishments including creation, the incarnation, the virgin birth, his life and ministry, his atonement, his resurrection, his ascension and his promised parousia. All for us and for our salvation. These are the absolute greatest events in history.

    And yet Jehovah’s Witnesses cannot praise him or even thank him for his grace and mercy and sacrifice on our behalf.

    Pity

  • KerryKing
    KerryKing

    Just say you're sorry and give back all your presents 😁

  • Gorb
    Gorb

    No problem anymore.

    Do what you want and when asked about it, say sorry.

    G.

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    What if you aren't sorry?

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    /\/\ then you lie --which is even worse.

  • Touchofgrey
    Touchofgrey

    I knew some jws who would invite family members over for a special meal on the 25th of December including elders with the excuse being that everyone is on holiday. As long as no pagan decorations or a tree was visible nobody would bother.

    Again jws cherry picking what they considered as pagan eg decorations and tree to make themselves different from other "Christian" religions.

    Like the pagans who also believed in virgin birth, miracles like turning water into wine etc, resurrection stories, ascension stories .

    One of the few things jws were right about the pagan stories that were accepted into religions and the bible so as to include as many people as possible.

    What you find out when you do independent research into the bible and its stories.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Celebrating Xmas.

    = nothing short of apostasy.

    = subsequent disfellowshipping

    & the ramifications that come with it.


  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    What Rutherford instituted in his tenure works for the Borg.

    Celebrating any holiday takes away focus from the Borg.

    It works to this day.

    Same applies for birthdays,,mothers & fathers days.

    Just think of the focus the Borg would lose by shifting focus away from ""them" to allll those birthdays. Also mothers & fathers days. Not to mention statutory holidays.

    It works for the Borg. Why would they want to change it now? It takes focus away from them.

    And,,,$$$$$,, money too.

  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    What would happen? Depends. Are there TWO witnesses? A Confession? If not, zip.

    I have seen many PIMO JWs "get away" with almost anything for years by doing the old "deny and counter allege" routine. If only ONE person reports something, the "sinner" denies everything, states someone misunderstood, made a mistake, or is slandering, and demands to confront their accuser.

    The long-term effect is earnest honest people who confess, get disfellowshipped, and devious liars rise to the top.

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