Why didn't Watchtower go online with covid?

by Hellothere 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • joe134cd
    joe134cd

    Despite short term gains, of lowering the chance of liability, and freeing up money in realestate. The long term effects of going on line would finish them. It’s a religion that relies on a physical presence. When you don’t know who the person is because their camera is off, or their exact location, you lose the ability to control.

    Nothing beats face to face contact. Even with my aged PIMI father I literally push him out the door to physically attend the meetings. This is the best course of action both physically and mentally for him Humans are designed to interact in person.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Yes

    Its a system of physical presence. Visibility and being ''seen"".

    Once the Borg has that aspect of control taken away....

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Its a system of free labor.

    Visibility earns merit. The more you're seen the more respect you earn.

    People pleasing.

  • KerryKing
    KerryKing

    From what I understood when I read the governments website regarding religious charities, it's part of the 501c3 agreement that they hold religious services in their churches for the local community.

    I imagine that becoming a solely televangelist corporation would require a different charity status to the regular 501c3.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Thats what its all about.

    This tax free charity status. The Borg will nevet survive,,,, without it. Like a beached whale.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    The Borg is a privilege heavy organization.

    The more you 'do' the more you're 'seen'.

    The more you're 'seen' the more you 'do'.

    The more you're 'seen' & ' doing' the more friends & 'fringe benefits' you get.

    I think the Borg likes to wield this control over the members.

    Its a system of 'free labor'. Perfect business model.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    Maybe sometimes we should actually believe what people say. The Org has never implied or stated they wanted to permanently stop in-person meeting or activity and go fully online - quite the reverse.

    They always intended meetings should resume, and from the very beginning have been keen to get congregations back in person. They also still promote House-to-House as the main form of ministry (even if most of the R&F disagree and would rather not do it).

    I don't believe they have ever intended to go fully online or fully virtual. Yes, you can make up all sorts of ulterior motive reasons for that (people less likely to contribute or remain PIMI if they are not physically involved, etc), but the simple fact is, humans are social beings. We PREFER being together in person.

    Look at how even clubs, society or groups that begin online often start to form "meetups" in person. We just WANT to be physically together with people we share opinions and beliefs with.

    So I don't think it's at all surprising that the Org has avoided going fully online, and that there appears to be no intention for them to do so.

    However, the challenge they have is balancing remote/online vs in-person attendance in the longer term. Since they gave the congregations the option of meeting online (which they had to, due to COVID), they've been wrestling with the consequence that for many, it's an easier option than meeting in person if they're not in the mood. Heck, even a lot of Witnesses who are generally PIMI would rather follow a meeting on Zoom from time-to-time if they're tired from work, or the kids are playing up, or whatever.

    Now that that cat is out of the bag, I don't see how the Org can put it back. The simplest thing to do is just leave things as they are, and let the ones who would rather use Zoom do so. I guess you can periodically give them a shepherding call to "encourage" them to come back in person, but beyond that, let them be.

    Also, the fact they want to turn over their properties for profits and treat the R&F like pawns, shuffling them from place-to-place, yet they still expect them to show up en masse in person, is also a serious mistake on their part. Sure, people generally want to meet in person as long as they are happy - but when you piss them off, they will NOT want to be there. And that's what the Org is doing now, big time: merging and moving congregations, constantly changing teachings, inconsistent rulings and 'discipline' - and of course the gradual revealing of their attempts to cover up legal cases in various countries - all these things are turning increasing numbers of the R&F off and accelerating the falling numbers.

  • mikeflood
    mikeflood

    They're gonna be full online, remember 'big changes are expected '....

    I guess the only presential meetings are going to be the Assemblies....just three times a year.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Probably sell all the halls & a$$embly complexes & go full blown online.

    Except for a few conventions throughout the year.

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    There's no reason why they couldn't bring back the book studies and make them zoom only. Weren't they abandoned due to the high risk of CSA incidents in private homes?

    BTW, what is the Tuesday night meeting that I "witness", as I pass the Kingdom Hall, on my way to a different church's Bible study? Lots of cars in the Kingdom Hall carpark, and people getting out of them.

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