What's with the attack (counsel) on husbands with no corresponding article for wives?

by Rattigan350 21 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    I guess Watchtower has finally decided to address the spousal abuse problem among JWs.

    I do think that's a large part of it, especially as the issues being caused are difficult to hide these days, with social media, sharing of sex pics and video clips, etc. That point was raised on the other thread related to this at https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5207275514363904/oral-anal-sex-flip-flop-march-2025-announcements-reminders

    Even in "the world" (read: the real world outside the JW enclave) there is a lot of concern about coercive sexual activity these days - fed by wide availability of explicit pornography - especially among the young and especially by males against females. Not everyone wants to engage in oral or anal sex, bondage or other acts and they certainly don't want to be literally forced into it against their will (I'm not talking about "rough" but consensual sex which some couples prefer, but emotional blackmail, gaslighting or violence to make a partner comply).

    In the face of that, it's obviously affecting congregations too, but with the GB now surprisingly coy about discussing sexual acts in the marriage bed, they are talking around the subject rather than being clear.

    The message should be clear enough: elders do not need to know what a married couple are doing in the bedroom, but both partners must know that non-consensual, coercive sex acts are wrong. For those who believe in God like the JWs, the obvious follow-up is to say that He sees the way a husband treats his wife in this regard and will judge accordingly (verses like 1 Peter 3:7 are often used here). Likewise a woman abusing her partner would not be showing "deep respect" to him (Ephesians 5:33). Also, that if such behaviour becomes outwardly known, it will effect the spiritual standing of the offending partner and, if it breaks criminal laws in the land (marital rape for example) will be referred to the secular authorities.

    No need to dance around with coded words or flip-flopping advice (wrong, not wrong, wrong-ish but we don't really want to know, etc).

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard

    Boy, am I ever glad I don't go to those damn meetings anymore!

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange
    Blow jobs are still bad.

    Not true. Some are just better than others.

  • thom
    thom
    They mentioned men watching pornography, but remember. The wives need to do their part in keeping in shape and showing it.

    I had hoped to escape this attitude when I left Twitter. Why does a wife have a responsibility to be hot?

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard

    @thom:

    I'll do you one better: I never had a Twitter account.

  • careful
    careful

    There is a “bigger play” at work here.

    the article from this weekend, after a quick skim, was designed to negate those two ‘policies’ with weasel language about respecting you wife and not demeaning her sexually etc etc.

    net net, “official” policy is that any sex is good sex, they stay out of it, should anyone ask. Unofficially, but what will be referenced by all elders, is the article fromthis past weekend where they will refer to demeaning sex and tie that to oral and anal.

    Justaguy, you seem to have hit the nail on the head.

  • thom
    thom
    I'll do you one better: I never had a Twitter account.

    You win! :)

  • Justaguy
    Justaguy

    @careful,

    thank you for the kind words. This seems to be the current play book. Make some public announcement about a policy change then back door undo it with vague wt language that the faithful will be decode. Same game different tune for them.

  • MeanMrMustard
    MeanMrMustard

    The elders will get their instruction when they review the Shephard the Flock book, as a group. The margins are wide, and they can be told what to cite and how to interpret all the "guidance". It won't show up in any official literature - only the hand written notes of each elders individual copy, given verbally.

  • carla
    carla

    Please tell me this was not a topic at a regular meeting with kids, grandma and mixed genders?

    aaagh! what is wrong with these people?!

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