Top Five Favorite Ways to Stump a Witness

by metatron 14 Replies latest jw friends

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  metatron

  #1 Say "The purpose of life is happiness!"

  Wait for knee-jerk reply ( "no, it's serving Jehovah")

  Then say, "If you don't think that happiness is the purpose of life, then you must believe that some form of

  UNHAPPINESS is the purpose of life!" This is especially powerful amidst Witnesses who take

  anti-depressants - BUT I DON'T ADVISE oneupmanship here - just encourage them to think.

  #2 "Why did Jesus avoid using God's name when he gave the Lord's Prayer - "Our Father in the heavens, hallowed be thy

  name?" Simple but rarely thought about.

  #3 "Why doesn't Jehovah allow the organization to afford subscriptions or food at assemblies?"

  An elder actually said he was still upset about the change to no meals provided

  #4 "If the organization keeps on losing young people and contributions, in ten years they won't be any different

  from any other religion" You may be surprized at the reply - some may quietly agree.

  #5 Wait for some negative rant about "this system of things ending soon" and ask the obvious

  "So, does 'soon' mean a year? five years? TWENTY YEARS?"

  If they then qualify the' soon' as indefinite, KINDLY point out that sadly, "I guess soon doesn't really mean soon anymore"

  Try 'em! Spoken with kindness ( not sarcasm), you may 'awaken their long-dead reasoning powers.

  metatron
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  johnny cip

  great points Metatron; but i like to go for the one that jw's can never prove... the wt teaches that Jesus did an inspection of all the religions from 1914-1918 and then choose the wt in 1919. 99% of jw's will agree with this. so at this point i say if jesus choose the wt in 1919 based on his inspection from 1914- 1918 . i will have no problem HAVING A STUDY ON THE BOOKS AND MAG'S FROM THE WT AT THAT TIME. . since jesus choose them based on what they were teaching then , these books must be the best books written since the bible.. RIGHT. so i have 5 hours a week to study these teaching that made jesus sing with glee.. so here's my phone # when can the study start and which studies of the scriptures are we going to study first. mAYBE THE FINISHED MYSTERY.. don't forget to bring the elders or the c.o. to help me understand how Jesus choose the wt from these teachings.... it never fails. john
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  drwtsn32

  the wt teaches that Jesus did an inspection of all the religions from 1914-1918 and then choose the wt in 1919.

  I haven't heard that one before... do you have a quote from one of the Society's publications? It would be killer to be able to use your argument to the above claim! Too bad the WTLIB CD-ROM only goes back to 1950.
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  drwtsn32

  I found a quote in the Isaiah book:

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  ip-2 chap. 27 p. 397 Jehovah Blesses Pure Worship ***

  In the modern-day fulfillment of these prophecies, there was an important spiritual development in 1918 in connection with Jehovah’s worship. Jehovah and Jesus evidently made an inspection of all of those claiming to represent pure worship. That inspection led to the final casting off of corrupt Christendom. For Christ’s anointed followers, the inspection meant a brief period of refinement followed by a swift spiritual restoration in 1919.
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  gitasatsangha

  have them come in and sit down for a study, then offer drinks, and return with glasses of V8 juice, explaining that you are on "the Blood Diet" and its really working for you.
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  neverthere

  OMG Gita, ROTFLMFAO
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  johnny cip

  drwtsn32; most every wt study book of the last 50 years go into the 1918 inspection by jesus in one way or other. and what prophecies were forfulled in 1919 or 1914 as your quote from the isaiah book said.reading old wt teachings from that tiome the only prophices being for fulled were false prophecies. try reading the revelation wt book . pg 173 to get started . the 7 bowls of rev chapter 5 were forfulled at the 1923-28 wt conventions .or the daniel book chapter 17 now ask any jw to back that up with a study of the old wt material.? you will get all kinds of bs answers but no study of this material. NEVER. !!!!!!!!!! TRY REAQDING SOME OF Refiners Fires threads on this topic it may help you out.... john
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  shamus

  Gita,

  I just spit my water out all over my keyboard!!!!!!

  Pissing my pants, laughing......
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  drwtsn32

  drwtsn32; most every wt study book of the last 50 years go into the 1918 inspection by jesus

  I guess that means I was paying even less attention at the meetings than I had originally thought. And I am only guilty of falling asleep at maybe 33% of the meetings.
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  herk