Mormons Last Night

by NeonMadman 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman
    The Mormons had a bit of a scandal recently regarding some of their teachings. They claim the American Indians are actually descendants of Babylonians or some such ridiculous stuff, and they came to America in a boat (truly). One of their members did DNA tests and disproved that teaching. He was excommunicated but appealed and they recanted. It happened here in our area, but I am "fuzzy" on the details. I feel it was true though.

    Actually, as I understand it, he wasn't excommunicated. There was some talk of it, but the Church was probably antsy about the bad publicity it would have gotten them.

    The Mormons say that the American Indians are descended from Hebrews who fled from Jerusalem just before it was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar. The DNA evidence showed that it was impossible for the American Indians to be descended from Hebrews, but that it was very similar to the DNA of Siberian/Asiatic peoples.

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman
    Ask them about the book of Isaiah, and why it's copied word for word in the BoM. Specifically quoting the KJV which uses the name "Lucipher" (which was a horribly inaccurate translation).

    Good one. I'll ask them about it. I believe the BOM also quotes 1 John 5:7 verbatim from the KJV, and that has been shown to be a spurious text.

  • pascaljon
    pascaljon

    In my experience, you probably will see your Mormon missionaries again. They only once failed to show up as arranged in all the time they called on me, and then they claimed to have got delayed by a combination of a puncture and no spare tyre. It struck me that as a JW I was always scribbling peoples addresses on bits of paper and promising to call back, then loosing the paper or just forgetting until it was too embarrasing to go back. In contrast, the missionaries seemed much more efficient. The reason for that is perhaps due to the fact that they phone in their "field service report" at the end of every day rather than every month. Don't expect them to rethink their ideas though. I thought I'd give them something to think about, but ended up getting baptised myself. I guess I'm just prone to religious pursuasion. I enjoyed the Mormon church though, and if you've got any questions for somebody "on the inside" (actually on the outside now) then let me know. The Quetzalcoatl subject is interesting. Quetzalcoatl was both a man, a priest and a god. He was called the morning star, I believe, and left ascending into the sky to the east, having promised to return. He was apparently white which supposedly contributed to Europeans (was it Cortez?) being welcomed as gods when they arrived from the East in America. Also, according to legend he was born of a virgin. All this can be found in non Mormon sources. He's not pushed much within the church itself as many people believe the whole story originated after the Spanish arrived. I only ever heard mention of him within the Mormon church when talking to missionaries. Well, I hope you enjoy their visits. People do find much of what they believe strange, but then again, you may find, like me that it helps you become more critical of your own beliefs, which has to be a good thing.

  • RevMalk
    RevMalk

    This is so ironic....

    The Missionaries just showed up at the gate (we live in a gated development), and they were uninvited, so the security guard called to ask if they could come in. I told them no.....

    I am a bit offended they didn't call first....

    I actually enjoy talking with them, but I won't allow them up my ass like this, they're getting like JWs now, haha

    Rev
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