You have to pity them (page 2)

searcher

Is this another witness ' post and run ' ?

surprising how the theology doesnt stand up to discussion.

xjw_b12

SordidofJah HijackerofPosts

Brummie: you said:

if anything this meeting reminded me how much I do care for them regardless of how I cant stand the filthy WT. They are victims. Perhaps next time I will tell her I am an exjw..dont know for sure if I should?

That's the difference, between us and them. Yes they may be sincere, and I'm sure some of them actually feel they may be saving your life, but for most of them, your a patsy, a marker. They get you lined up in their sites, eagerly anticipating mag sales, rv's, Gasp, perhaps even a bible study.

You on the other hand, knowing both sides of the story, feel true compassion.

I would take their own tactics, and use it against them.

Draw her out. Ask her questions she is going to have to research on, perhaps even asking others in the congregation.

Stay away from the controversial stuff, you know UN, pedophiles, blood, etc. but concentrate on their bible interpetation, such as why Christ is only the mediator for the "annointed ", and if the governing body, is directing the work on earth, and is god's channel, then why aren't the remnant that is scattered over the earth, consulted before changes are revealed, or even when publications are prepared for printing ?

Good Luck.

xjw_b12 " Millions Now Living Will Never ~~Die~~ Know "

KGB

Brummie,

Want some good advice from experience ? I would not tell her that your an ex because the minute you do they through up red flags and don`t even give you the time of day. It`s fuuny how it works because if your just the average person next door they do listen but the second your an ex Oh !!!!! they never listen to a single thing you have to say and they do anything and everything they can to avoid you. So I personally think that if you want to get your message across don`t tell her any of your experience in their stinkin lyin religion.

SOJ, I feel sorry for you because you show your true colors here with your angry and evil words. I think you are a very confused person. I also know that if your elders knew you were here in this group you would be disfellowshipped. You also know that. So I think you should dig way deep inside your heart and your mind and figure out why your really here. Anyone of us would be more than glad to calmly share the real truth with you but you need to want to know what that truth is. Let me tell you friend what you are protecting is a lie and a very evil faith. Pull your ass out of the gutter because all your doing now is digging your grave even a little deeper. God be with you....

Brummie

Xjw_b, I agree, I will attempt to draw her out with questions, I had a little go last night and she is going to research, obviously she will research the WT & not the Bible.

KGB, you are right, one word on being an ex and their communication skills and the "caring nature" goes out the window.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Brummie

*Wondering if SOJ will ever come back and bravely answer the questions here*

RAYZORBLADE

Hi Brummie, how goes it?

Yup, I think it was wise to be quiet at first, but the opportunity is there to perhaps lead her with some very important questions.

You have the tools Brummie, and you're kind enough and care enough to know what to ask and how to do it.

Pity her, absolutely. But it begs for trying to unblind the blinded, and have someone examine their faith perhaps, more closely and with discernment. Just recently, I have received some e-mails from believing JWs, and it's interesting when you draw them to blatant errors and doctrinal flub-ups, that they are in tizzy, and cannot believe they've been duped for this long.

Brummie, do what you can. I know you'll be careful and caring.

I think S.of J's book would be: Critic of Unconsciousness.

If he's the Sword of Jah, then I'm the Dildo of Satan.

pettygrudger

lol @ Rayzorblade - whoo hoo - can only imagine what being that gets ya!

Brummie - you are so kind and considerate - and if you feel comfortable discussing things with her, so be it.....but you can always just say the "not interested" thing too, that's worked before for non-ex's, so can't imagine it wouldn't work for you.

I've often wondered myself what I would do if that situation presented itself - but the workplace is definitely not a good place to have "labels" given to anyone - especially in the field you're in (its so hard to find good help as it is, and caring people).....

Brummie

I think S.of J's book would be: Critic of Unconsciousness

lolol @ razor

Petty I was gonna go with "i'm not interested" and would have felt quite comfortable talking about anything but JWs, but I was too tempted to see if she had ready answers for the couple of questions I asked. Naturally she didnt. I feel sorry for her, she is in her 50's and has been JW since she was 9 yrs old.

Brummie

freedom96

When talking to an witness, I decide to tell them that I left the "truth" if it works out to be in the best interest of those involved. My business is based on sales, and if the customer has not been closed yet on the deal, I do not say anything.

But, interesting enough, when talking to a customer, and religion comes up as it often does with some, I may tell them that I used to be a witness. They get all excited, and then a sale comes for sure.

It really all depends on the situation. If I feel they would be receptive to hearing the real truth of it all, then I tell them. If they are jerks, then I tell them. If they are old and humble and spent their entire life in it, I am not going to burst their bubble at this point.

wednesday

Brummie,

U are swuch a sweetheart. I too worked for a long time in your same area. u might want to watch the jw lady, as they have been known to try and witness to patients. U never know what she might be doing-. I say this from a perosn who was also in a position of charge- the last thing a patient needs is to have their bvrains screwed with .BTW. the born againsers try to do this too.

weds

Brummie

ha Wednesday, I work mainly with adults who are on the lower end of the spectrum of Autsim, if she dared started witnessing to them they would probably bite her....lol.

Information intake has to be bare essential, sentences have to be structured and minimal, quoting a Scripture and trying to explain its meaning would cause an incident, we would soon know if she was trying to witness to em.

Brummie

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