Maryland congregation gave me false info

by Alleymom 28 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • OrbitingTheSun
    OrbitingTheSun
    If Eve and her husband did not put this info together themselves, do you think they would be shocked to find out that the elder who gave it to them got his info from such a source? When you were in the organization, would it have upset YOU if a householder showed you that an elder had given you info from a site like this? Or would you have shrugged it off as an all's-fair-in-theocratice-warfare kind of thing?

    I would like to say that I would have questioned the elder's behavior, but it is difficult to say what I would have done with such a different perspective now. Despite the suspicions I probably would have had, I can say the elder probably would have been able to convince me that he was justified in his behavior.

  • OrbitingTheSun
    OrbitingTheSun

    Are you trying to display an image or embed a webpage? If you have a link, I can display it for you.

  • Alleymom
    Alleymom

    Edited -- I can't display the image. Sorry.

  • Alleymom
    Alleymom

    I scanned the page and would like to display it here. But pasting it in from the clipboard doesn't work. Do you have time to explain the procedure to me?

  • OrbitingTheSun
    OrbitingTheSun

    In order to post the image it has to be hosted on a site. You can join a free hosting site, like www.strike9.com , and have your own space for images or if you only want to host this particular image and don't expect to host any other images, I can upload it for you on my Strike9 account. If you want me to upload it for you, you can e-mail it to me at [email protected] and I will post it here for you now. Otherwise, using Strike9 is user-friendly and you shouldn't have too much trouble opening and posting from an account there.

  • Nickey
    Nickey

    Alleymom,

    Edna Harris and Bishop rings a bell. Vaguely. I attended there briefly. I went to alot of congregations due to frequent moving. Frederick, Silver Spring, Columbia, Ashton, Clarksville.... etc.

    I left for a few reasons. But mainly because I've always felt something wasn't right. Everything seemed cold and contradicting. That moved me to do research and that was it for me.

  • Alleymom
    Alleymom

    Nickey,

    Edna was the first JW to visit me here in Bowie, about 13 years ago. After her first visit, I looked her up in the phone book and then dropped in on her a few weeks later, which shocked her enormously.

    I know she fudges on her hours by swinging by to see me and counting time when all she does is ask about the family, comment on the weather, etc., but I don't mind. Being a pioneer is obviously very important to her, and I think she is having trouble getting in the hours as she gets older.

    I guess you left the Bowie congregation long before the artist-formerly-known-as- Prince showed up. Edna tells me how he arrives at the Kingdom Hall in his limo, but then she hastens to add that Jehovah views all people the same, rich and poor, famous or not <s>.

    Marjorie

  • OrbitingTheSun
    OrbitingTheSun

    Posted For Alleymom:

  • Alleymom
    Alleymom

    Thanks for posting the image for me! I'm sorry I didn't know enough to shrink it before I emailed it to you.

    You can see that the JW who prepared the file for me took some care to cut-and-paste the CE/BCE definitions so they line up with the margins of the Britannica search engine page, creating the impression that these are "results you can trust" from the Britannica site.

    If you look at http://www.religioustolerance.org/ce.htm you will see that they lifted the definitons from that site, font and italics and all. They did cut out the sentence about the year of Jesus' birth, however, since that is not in accord with WT chronology.

    My husband wondered if they thought we were so gullible that we would believe the entire packet came from the Britannica site, rather than being a collection of WT articles. I don't know about that, but I think the first page (the one you posted for me) definitely gives the impression that the BCE/CE definitions come from the Britannica.

    And it's such a dumb thing to do. Why bother with such a petty dishonesty?

    I had told them my husband was formerly an editor at an archaeology magazine, so they should have realized we are well aware of the meaning of CE and BCE anyway. That's one more reason I think they did not do this themselves, but received it from someone else at the congregation.

    Incidentally, the May 15, 2003 WT magazine they left with me has a couple of errors in the first article. On page 5 of the article, the authors cite Keil and Delitzch's Commentary on the Ol Testament, but they have the page number wrong. I found the quote, but in the modern editions it is on a different page. I think they are quoting from an older edition. Again, a small thing, but they may be trying to hide the fact that Keil and Delitzch actually count the days in the ark differently than the WT does. The WT article says "Noah and the others spent one lunar year and ten days (370 days) in the ark".

    But a lunar year actually has 354 days, not 360 days. (360 days is what is known as a "prophetic" year; it is not the same as a lunar year). They are counting the extra ten days incorrectly. Most scholars count it inclusively, as 11 days. That makes for a lunar year of 354 days plus an extra 11 days, adding up to exactly one solar year.

    Again, such a small thing, but it is exactly this kind of inaccurate and misleading quoting from scholarly sources that drives me crazy. We own many of the books and articles that the WT quotes from, and when I look up the sources, there's frequently something a little awry with the WT's use of the source.

    Thanks again for your help!

    Marjorie

  • qwerty
    qwerty

    Thanks Marjorie....Very interesring, I hope they return!

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    Qwerty

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