60 Minutes

by teejay 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • crossroads
    crossroads

    Teejay-The only-only-reason for taking a life you nailed
    on the head YOUR children.
    Tim is not as evil as Charlie Manson-Manson lives
    Tim was fighting for this society to be FREE,or did that escape you. According to Jefferson the second amendment now
    would include a stealth bomber in every ones drive
    way. Not a very safe place but the government would
    sure be shaking in there shoes-Jeffersons point.
    FREEDOM-FREEDOM-FREEDOM- is what the WBTS is
    afraid of and the U.S. government and CHINA and
    well so it goes-Freedom is what this man will die
    for yours and mine. You don't think you got to choose
    between bush jr and al because we have freedom
    do you? Please tell me that is not the best we have
    to offer.

    Tell me were the hero's of Viet-nam those who went
    or those who went to jail-exercised there FREEDOM.
    The light of history sure changes civil peoples perceptions.
    Maybe just maybe in 30 years from now when the
    government is in every aspect of our daily lives TIM will
    then be looked upon as a HERO well maybe.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH~

  • teejay
    teejay

    Crossroads,

    First, I must say… My, my, my how we do jump around!!
    Started with 60 Minutes and here we are on Charles Manson.
    How in the hell did that happen? Second: I think you
    have a Tim fixation. I'd get it checked if I were you.
    Now -- to your note…

    >>Tim is not as evil as Charlie Manson-Manson lives Tim was
    >>fighting for this society to be FREE,or did that escape you

    Charlie was, is, and probably will always be crazy. And in the
    words of the esteemed Forrest Gump, "and that's all I've got
    to say about THAT."

    I guess it did escape me that Tim was acting to enhance my
    freedom. Hmmm, that's funny -- don't feel any freer. The guys
    who pulled the trigger at Ruby Ridge are sleeping peacefully in
    their own beds tonight. Same for the men who drove the tanks
    and torched the compound in Waco. What your "hero" Tim did
    in Oklahoma City has effected those culprits not one wit. All
    he did was kill some office workers and children who had
    nothing to do with either ATF/FBI action. It is very likely that
    even what ATF agents might have been officed at the Murrah
    were ordered not to report to work April 19, 1995. It is
    absolutely ABSURD to think that blowing up a building
    enlarged anyone's freedom.

    >>The light of history sure changes civil peoples perceptions.

    It should. People are privileged to have more information as time
    goes by. Some people, I say SOME people, adopt a more mature
    and enlightened perspective as time elapses as well. These and
    other factors cause initial perceptions to change over time.

    >>Maybe just maybe in 30 years from now when the
    >>government is in every aspect of our daily lives TIM
    >>will then be looked upon as a HERO well maybe.

    Fat chance. That ain't gonna happen, my friend, and I'm afraid that
    I have to be the one to tell you this, but someone should and it may
    as well be me -- if you really think that that boy will ever be a hero
    except to some fringe wackos, then you have as many serious mental
    deficiencies and gaps in logic as he does. Don't you understand? He
    killed INNOCENT PEOPLE. People who had nothing to do with
    what he was concerned about. He killed women and children who were
    far, far away when the government was screwing up at Ruby Ridge
    and Waco.

    If you were to reread my original post in this thread, you'd see that
    it had nothing to do with what we have been talking about here. It
    really was about coming to know the full truth and the different
    responses seemingly similar people have when they do. I used elders
    as a target, but this study in human nature applies to many people.
    That is all I meant to say. I did not intend to offer you the opportunity
    to rise to the defense of a baby killer.

    Put it this way: if your child had been one of those killed, or your
    mom, or aunt, would Tim still be your hero? Would you still be
    defending him tooth and nail?

    peace,
    todd
    ____________________________________
    "A lie told often enough becomes the truth."
    ------- Lenin

  • crossroads
    crossroads

    I NEVER CALLED TIM MY HERO
    Bobby, Martin, Marley, Chapin, Clemente, Geldorf,
    Hepburn, Churchill(the only GREAT amongest the greatest
    leaders of the greatest generation) I might consider HERO'S
    in one way or another. Anyone of us that feeds a hungry child.

    I said a along I didn't condone what Tim did. I said maybe
    in 30 years history might view the young man different.
    YOUR the one who said WE all know who is worthy of life
    and death not I .I'm not the Almighty and can't say that .
    My comment about Manson was about if evil must be killed off does not HE go to the top of the list not Tim.

    INNOCENT CHILDREN-INNOCENT CHILDREN
    They die everyday!!!!!!!!!! Our government causes a lot of it.
    Nobody where's ribbons for them: nobody gets executed
    for taking there lives.
    Here's a little ditty true story.
    The day after Okla. a woman that I worked with came back
    to my desk. She asked would you like a ribbon. A ribbon
    for what I asked? For the people who died in Okla. yesterday.
    ME- Did you know anybody there?
    HER-No
    ME- How come we are not wearing ribbons for all those
    who are dying in Bosnia?(U.S. bombing at that time)
    HER- Thats different and I don't know them.
    ME- You said you didn't know anyone in Okla. either .
    Deer in headlight look.
    I think I'll pass on the Ribbon-as she walked away
    I said by the way I have family who live all around Okla-city
    but they are alright.

    Teejay-point killing is wrong whether condoned by the
    government-the will of the people themselves-GOD-
    or ONE lone man with what he thinks is a good cause.
    If TIM should be executed for killing the innocent why
    shouldn't WE kill all who do?
    I really don't think we have enough needles or drugs
    to go around though. Sorry TIM but we do have enough
    for you.

  • crossroads
    crossroads

    "A lie told often enough becomes the truth"

    You mean like the lie I learned in school that
    the Indians were the savages.

    You may have your thread back I won't bother you
    again I hope the execution party goes well after all
    according to you Mr. McViegh deserves it.
    Oh those elders you were mentioning in the begginnig
    would surely toast to his death too.
    Have a loving and peaceful night.

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