You Should Feel Guilty If You Don't Pioneer Even If You're Retired or Young

by minimus 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • minimus
    minimus

    Mak, that was called "guilt". You were programmed to think that you "should" look forward to retirement so that you can pioneer. Now if you can find some sun, enjoy the beach!

  • JT
    JT

    When the elderly person has no money to support themselves because they spent so much time in meetings and field service, who is going to help them out?

    I'll tell ya who - the disfellowshipped daughter who did go on to get an education and her "wordly" educated husband. The other children that are still JW's are too busy shepherding and doing quick builds to take care of such trivial things!
    excellent point

  • minimus
    minimus

    There is a certain unspoken contempt that exists when a person is being cared for by a disfellowshipped person. It's a feeling of, "Well, that's the least they can do. WE are doing the real work of preaching and disciple-making".

  • blondie
    blondie

    I always saved experiences from the mags of elders with families (6 kids) who regular pioneered. Or experiences where elders cut back financially, sold their houses, got a used car and moved to where the need is great. Or experiences where elders retired early and took a lower pension to regular pioneer.

    Blondie (I'm such a snot) Usually I asked why they weren't regular pioneering (unless they are then I pick another elder as an example).

    I asked one why none of kids ever pioneered. They all got married at 18 and had their first child by 19....hmmmm

  • JH
    JH

    I don't feel guilty about anything in that cult, except for spreading lies door to door.

  • minimus
    minimus

    Blondie, I assume that you teased these people on purpose. Shame shame. Everytime my elderly pioneer, sickly mom hears an experience of how someone put in 150 hours in service per month by typing with a pencil in their mouth because of being paralyzed, she gets upset. The Society wants you to know that YOU CAN pioneer if you really want to show Jehovah that you love him.

  • blondie
    blondie

    I was baaad, minimus. I hate people making comparisons and telling people what they should do who aren't doing it themselves.

    Actions speak louder than words.

    It is better to live a sermon that to preach one.

    So many elders are such hypocrites. I know one who auxiliary pioneers when the CO comes. He spends all his time with the CO brown nosing. The rest of the month no one every sees him out in service.

    Listen after 40 years with the Borg, I have a million stories about pioneering and elders.

    Blondie (who did regular pioneer and did not fudge on her time)

  • ikhandi
    ikhandi
    I went to a Thursday meeting for the first time in 4 weeks

    Why Minimus? Am I missing something.

  • minimus
    minimus

    Family issues. Not everyone's on the exact same page.

  • rocketman
    rocketman

    It's the same rhetoric, as we all know, that's they've always spewed. The same guilt trip layed upon younger people, who are realizing in droves that they'd better get a good education in order to stand a chance of landing even a decent job.

    A friend of mine, 25 years ago, came to me and told me that several jws were asking him "why aren't you pioneering?" when he graduated school, and he felt guilty and ashamed for having to defend his intention, which was to get a job. And now looking back, what good would pioneering have done anyway?

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