Why cults hide their old publications.

by refiners fire 39 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  refiners fire

  Buster. I dont think Russell concieved much of anything originbal in his movement. He was enthusiastic about Parallels, thats because the Adventists Didnt use those. But they used the 6000 years "proof", the 2520 years "proof" and the Jubilee "Proof". Actually the parallels are still in use today. I saw them used as proof of the divine appointment of the Reverend Sun Myung Moon. I posted a thread about that here somewheres.

  Al F. You are indeed right ( as usual) They were Millerites, not SDAs, though they were Adventists. The SDA movement first published its fully developed doctrine April 1850 in James Whites magazine "Present Truth". (As opposed to Yesterdays former truth or Tomorrows as yet dimly percieved truth)
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  Nathan Natas

  Great info, guys!

  Far too few people are aware that the JWs are a COPYCAT religion.

  "There is nothing new under the sun."
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  freein89

  speaking of hiding old publications, I read here that JW's sanitize the bound volumes, can somebody post some examples, I never would have believed or even conceived they would do that, but now it makes so much sense, get rid of the individual copies, which you have already paid for, and buy the bound volumes, just the money part kills me, now it looks like it is a way to hide "old light" besides. I would love to hear about some specific examples!!!!!
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  refiners fire

  89. Im not aware that they massively engage in the Stalinist practise of rewriting the History books. Their delicate consciences wouldnt allow them to actively Lie, so they insinuate and misdirect instead. The only glaring example, that i know, of an important book alteration they performed pertained to Russells 1914 date when they altered the dates in later copies of the Scripture Studies. I'll find a link to that one and put it up. If you want specific examples of misdirecting the readers of the WT into drawing false conclusions, lots of examples of that are postable. I'll hang some up if you need to see it.
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  refiners fire

  89. Those date alterations re 1914 were published in the March 1915 Issue of the Watchtower. Ive got hard copy of that here. Looking thru the www.agsconsulting.com site ,where the Russelian Watchtowers are available, I see that the date alterations have been removed from the current reprints. It is by such methods that history is fabricated. Theres nothing highly technical about it. Its not even vaguely clever. And any decent person would consider it inconcievable that apparently compassionate sincere and caring churchmen would remove embarrassing passages from their publications and pretend it was never said.

  But thats what they do.

  Suffice to say, if any university publishing house engaged in such practises they would be utterly disgraced and callumnified.
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  garybuss

  
  1844 plus 30 years = 1874. This was set as another date for the end of the world. They picked 30 because Jesus was 30 years of age when he began his ministry.
  
  When the 1874 date failed they decided Jesus did return that year . . . only invisibly. Then they added 40 years to 1874 = 1914. That's how they arrived at 1914. They picked 40 because the Israelites spent 40 years in the wilderness.
  
  All told in volume 3 of Studies by Charles Russell.
  
  
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  refiners fire

  "They picked 40 because the Israelites spent 40 years in the wilderness. "

  Gary, Perhaps they used that reasoning as well as others to back their position. My understanding is that 40 years on top of 30CE = 70CE, the end of the Jewish system. Paralleling to 1914. Id like to see a quote backing what you say there. For my own edification, of course.Y ou could well be right. I know you wont mind me questioning with you, nor do I mind you disputing me. After all, we are mere researchers. Not Gods of WT history.
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  Winston Smith :>D

  I read here that JW's sanitize the bound volumes, can somebody post some examples

  Hey free.

  i have read that the 1/1/89 W was altered to read from the original mag reading of saying that the "end would come before the end of the 20th century" to the bound volume's sanitized version saying something instead like "the end of the last days." not sure of the exact wording, though i would like to get my hands on a hard copy if possible.

  Maybe i'll ask someone at the KH this Thu. w/the intention that I'm comparing the pictures of the original mag vs. the bound volume.
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  plmkrzy

  They picked 40 because the Israelites spent 40 years in the wilderness.

  I can't say if that is correct or not but it sure does sound familure. I can almost remember either reading that or hearing that several years ago. I wouldn't even know where to look for it.

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  You're welcome, glad I could help.
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  garybuss

  
  Hi RF
  
  I am not questioning your line at all. I think it is interesting. Thanks for posting it. I got my education from reading the history of William Miller, and from reading Second Adventist as well as Barbour and Russell. Franz and Penton offer great timeline histories. My favorite of all time is the work of Jerry Bergman. Every serious student of the Watch Tower Corporation and the second Adventist Movement needs his work.
  
  Three Worlds page 126
  
  Again: Thirty years before that harvest began, Christ was born. Prior to that event, there had been a general expectation, and as you remember, old Simeon had the witness that he should not see death until he had seen the Lords anointed. And there was in Israel a decided advent movement, culminating in the birth of Christ, and the wise men of the east coming to worship, &c. Thirty years before this harvest began, there had been an advent movement. It began perhaps with Wolf, who preached through Europe and Asia, but was mainly in this country, and culminated in the tenth day of the seventh month of 1844, just 30 years prior to the autumn of 1874.
  
  
  
  Page 175
  
  Many arguments are given in this book proving that we are now in the time of harvest; hence, that Christ has come the second time and that he was due, in the autumn of 1874, his appearing in the clouds being yet future. From the seventh month in 1844 to the seventh month in 1874, was thirty years.
  
  I will post more on the tie from 1874 to 1914. Gary