In the past 24 hours, the world has been breaking into fragments. What will be the Outcome??

by liam 9 Replies latest social current

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  liam

  New German Chancellor Merz has won the election. Trump congratulated his victory but the response was not what Trump expected.

  Merz condemned America, saying that America seemed to be aligning with Russia.

  He also expressed Doubts about NATO’s future.

  He is now advocating that Germany must gain independence from USA. Which is what Trump has told the European Union, that they must focus on their own Countries and protect their own Citizens.

  Trump told them he was elected by the majority of American Citizens to End all War involvement by the United States, to close the borders, expel all the illegal immigrants from the Country, get rid of DEI and WOKE ideology. Stop funding any Green New Deal projects and get rid of all the fraud in the Government agencies. “ The Citizens of American Want their Government to TAKE CARE OF THEIR CITIZENS, Not the Citizens of Other Countries.

  And as President, that’s what I intend to do”....Replied Trump!

  The Newly appointed Chancellor is saying that it’s time for Germany to focus on building up their Own military including Nuclear defense. It’s time for Germany to become a strong power again.

  Other EU Countries are taking sides as they see something coming down the horizon. Poland, Italy, Slovak and Hungary are onboard with Trump. They don’t want anything to do with WAR.They want to focus on their own Citizens, Protect their own Borders.

  Other EU Countries believe WAR is the way to go and it’s time to start drafting the young men and start spending on Defense. Especially now that Trump has made it clear that He will not draft Young Americans to fight a war that can continue for decades and can’t be won.

  Same as other Countries, in American, there are those like Senator Republican Lindsey Graham who is trying to impeach Trump because he is not willing to continue the war and implement the draft immediately to send troops to Ukraine. Alone with the Main Stream Media and the Democrat party.

  And those who hate war and want nothing to do with it. Especially the young men who would be forced to sacrifice their life for a bunch of Neo-cons.

  Same thing is happening in other Countries, Some Want War other Don’t.

  It seems like the beginning of an atmosphere like that preceding the World Wars.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUFZk3jw4MU

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVt9ibVzJoU

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiVchkVn9nY
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  TonusOH

  EU and NATO nations contributing more to their own defense and security can only be a good thing in the long run. Many people decry the way the USA meddles and plays "world police." One way to push back against that is to become less dependent on the USA for their safety. Time to start increasing their military budgets and growing their armed forces. Rip that bandaid off now.
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  liam

  EU and NATO nations contributing more to their own defense and security can only be a good thing in the long run.

  I agree.

  In the meantime Trump can concentrate on making America Great again.

  So far Trump has gotten Apple Inc back to America that will produce 20,000 STEM jobs plus regular detail jobs. 500 Billion investment in the next 4 years.

  Also Trump is almost finished getting the Contract signed by Ukraine for certain mineral rights as repayment for the 350 Billion that the former President Administration just gave away for free while the EU was promised to get repaid.

  That repayment should be worth several Trillion dollars in mining and other perks in the coming years.
  

  Biden was deliberately trying to destroy America before he passed away.

  Trump is trying to reverse what the Democrats did that past 4 years.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvvjJm8AVqg
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  TonusOH

  I wouldn't say that we gave away billions to Ukraine (although there is the matter of the tens of billions that seem to have "disappeared"). The money might even be considered well-spent (again, except for any that was possibly stolen) if it helped to expose Russia's weaknesses and give them a bloody nose on the international stage (an injury that will feel a lot less painful if he gets what he wants from these negotiations, which seems likely).

  Trump is taking advantage of Ukraine's (and the EU's) plight to get a favorable long-term deal out of it. The idea is that, if the USA has a vested (economic) interest in keeping it independent, it is worth it to Ukraine to agree to the deal. But if the deal does not include boots on the ground, it will remain very vulnerable to future Russian agression. If there is anything that shows us that Trump is not a politician, (or not a typical one, anyway) it's his willingness to make such baldly lopsided offers, knowing that there's a good chance he will get what he wants.

  I'm curious how future administrations (especially Democrat administrations) will deal with all of these changes. But I'm in no rush to find out. There is one thing for sure: when Trump speaks of putting America first, he is doing so honestly and unapologetically. That's refreshing, to a degree.
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  Vidiot

  “…America seemed to be aligning with Russia…”

  IF that’s actually the case…

  …ten bucks says Trump and Putin are quietly planning on divvying up everything above the Arctic Circle between them…

  …or, more accurately, all of the resources within it that are now becoming accessible due to global warming.
  
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  Journeyman

  …ten bucks says Trump and Putin are quietly planning on divvying up everything above the Arctic Circle between them…

  Put that way it does have a kind of twisted logic to it.

  Both men are shamelessly opportunistic, both have no respect for anyone who disagrees with them, and both seem to put money, power and nationalism (their own country) above all else. The only difference between them seems to be that Putin will go as far as killing others to achieve his aims, while Trump doesn't quite go that far - as far as we know. Yet.

  It's an amazing turnaround, when you think that for decades America - and Republicans in particular - were probably the staunchest opponents of Russian Communism and its expansionism and manipulation and control of narratives, as represented most starkly by its dictatorial leaders and the aggression used by its armed forces. Can you imagine an Eisenhower or a Reagan patting Putin on the back and offering him more slices of Ukraine, while making threats to allies like Canada and countries in western Europe?

  Now we have a Republican US President who considers not one but two or even THREE Communist dictators (Putin, Kim Jung Un and possibly Xi) to be people he respects and possibly even friends and allies he wants to work with.
  

  As for the EU, I've felt for many years that it is destined to fail. That's also why I've always supported the principle of Brexit, even though the UK Conservative governments which finally had the guts to allow the people to vote on the issue messed up the implementation (with the help of prominent Remoaners and the EU itself, of course). The cracks in Europe have been there for a long time, especially since it overreached itself with rapid expansion in the 1990s, trying to absorb so many former Soviet countries, and also enforced monetary union and a single currency zone.

  The EEC was an understandable and commendable idea at first (to bond neighbouring countries torn by war into a trading union so that they would never fight again), but it was overtaken by the usual greed and hubris of politicians and bureaucrats and mutated into what is now the EU - a misguided attempt to make a European superstate. The combination of Putin's "special military operation", an immigration crisis and the current bizarre twist of fate in American politics is simply hastening the EU's demise by bringing the cracks to the surface even faster.

  It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world.
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  iloowy.goowy

  Trumpolini is playing into the hands of Dictator Putin. I wonder if that's what is keeping the Moscow pee-pee tape out of the media.

  As far as billions of dollars going to Ukraine, most of it is spent on armaments to US weapon manufacturers who employ American workers. And, a lot of those armaments are old and would be displaced by newer weapons so it is a boon to US armaments manufacturers.
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  Riley

  All Trumps peace plan is going to do is have every nation that borders Russia seeking nuclear weapons. Baltic states, Georgia, Central Asian former Soviet republics, even Poland.

  Oh boy, sandbagging NATO sure made the world a safer place.
  
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  Rivergang

  There is one thing for sure: when Trump speaks of putting America first, he is doing so honestly and unapologetically.

  Then it sounds like he has been studying the foreign policy methods of former French President, Charles De Gaulle. Whenever he was engaged in diplomacy, De Gaulle's approach was brutally simple, and able to be summed up in a single phrase:

  "I'm all-right Jack, £µ€₭ you!"

  (A stance the Royal Navy used to refer to as "belonging to the Jack Club").
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  Vidiot

  Journeyman - “…both seem to put money, power and nationalism (their own country) above all else…”

  Agreed.

  So… what if “Make America Great Again” really means “Make America a Superpower Again”?

  If my theory is right, it would explain why Trump would really want control of Canada (and Greenland, for that matter)…

  …unlimited access to half the Arctic Ocean could theoretically accomplish that.