Convention and other devolpments

by Gorb 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    TonusOH - “…Maybe they feel they have to take the risk of alienating current JWs in the hopes of attracting (and keeping) new converts?”

    Doubtful.

    At this point, nothing they do is going to stimulate genuine, authentic (re)growth, and they should know it by now*.

    If “obey, obey, obey” is about retaining the membership they still have, the “reforms” are about capitulating to secular authority to keep their charity status.

    *If their lawyers and consultants haven’t adequately explained that, they need better lawyers and consultants.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    TonysOH - Plus, it erodes the power and influence of the GB itself…”

    Uh-huh.

    Funny thing about authoritarian followers…

    …contrary to popular belief, the majority of them won’t actually follow their leaders off an obvious cliff, like lemmings (neither do lemmings, actually, for that matter).

    If a follower’s confidence in their chosen leader is undermined enough, they can and often do abandon that allegiance, and go looking somewhere else.

    A big part of why many JWs haven’t yet is because (credit where credit’s due) up till now, the WTS has done a really effective job conditioning them to think that there’s nowhere else to look.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    But along came the internet era.

    Something the Borg never saw coming. It exposes all the past decades of lying and b.s.

  • mann377
    mann377

    I went to the convention.. Wanted to see some old friends and do a survey for myself of the age of the people. My observation was that 80% were over 60, no young teenagers (counted maybe dozen). Do the math for the next 15 years. Out of 8,500 only 56 baptized. That's .65%. They know what these figures mean.

  • Journeyman
    Journeyman
    A big part of why many JWs haven’t [ abandon(ed) that allegiance] yet is because (credit where credit’s due) up till now, the WTS has done a really effective job conditioning them to think that there’s nowhere else to look.

    There's another factor which has served the Org strangely well to date, but which they are now tinkering with to their peril and that is: predictability. For many decades until recently, the JW way of life and "party line" on most matters was pretty predictable and well-known by all (on the inside at least) - so for existing JWs, they knew what the "boundaries" were, and as long as they were "happy" with that, they would not walk away or rock the boat.

    The irony is that now, in making so many changes in the past decade or so - though many of them were needed and much belated - the Org risks alienating the longer-standing members who now don't really know what their "religion" stands for.

    That especially affects the ones who were kids or teens just before the changes. They grew up being told they had to believe in and behave the way JW life was back then, and just when they have learned it and may have decided to stick with it, suddenly it all starts changing.

    We talk a lot about the effects on the 40 or 50+ year veteran JWs, but what about these young adults? Just when you think you "know" what you believe, it all starts changing around you. And then you see new GB members appointed who are maybe the same age as your own parents, or even slightly younger. And maybe even new elders appointed in your congregation or circuit who are your own age, or just a couple of years older! A big contrast to the previous "older" men who may have seemed to have "wisdom of age" on their side when you were growing up and probably at least sounded as though they knew what they were talking about.

    How likely are you to feel confident that your "leaders" now know what they're doing, or that you wholeheartedly trust and believe what they say? And that you can invest the years of your 20s, 30s, 40s ahead in your active adulthood into supporting them? Or would you be more likely to say "---- this, I'm out of here!", or at the very least, to ease back on the accelerator (if you were formerly a keen young pioneer or whatever) and put the "Truth" on the backburner while you get on with the rest of life?

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot
    Journeyman - “…Just when you think you ‘know’ what you believe, it all starts changing around you…”

    I guarantee you, this particular phenomenon is not limited to young adults.

  • littlerockguy
    littlerockguy

    GB: How to we allow men to wear beards and women to wear slacks without appearing to look like the cult our organization really is after banning them for decades when Jesus and the founder of our organization wore beards themselves?

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Easy… put Lett on TV.

    Probably didn’t even need to draw straws.

    😏

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