by run dont walk 17 Replies latest jw friends
What is the best way to leave the JW religion ?????
Give your experience or maybe some ideas you came up with after you left, on the best ways of getting out.
How to cope with family pressure ??? (by far the hardest issue when leaving)
Maybe some JW's reading this thread might be able to get off the fence and get out.
Hopefully WE ALL can make this thread very helpful.
I've only been here a little while, but this board is alot of HELP.
Thanks to all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tell them to have some dignity
Are you happy?
If you are STAY
If you're not, then don't think you can't leave - there is a world out there waiting for you!
Tell them you are depressed! Don't tell them anything else! Don't argue Resist the urge to spill your guts. Just keep repeating that you are suffering from depression and leave it at that. Eventually, they will GIVE UP!!!!! metatron ( it's simple and it works)
Just drop off the key Lee, make a new plan Stan, jump off the bus Gus, an get yourself free.
Sounds easy, but its not!
Education, information, history, theraphy. There are many web sites today with information to help. Lots of expierence from those who are doing it, and many around who have done it. A long process that redifines almost all your mental walls, and many of your emotional ones. Could it be summed up with a single post, a "magic bullet", I wish. There are a thousand ways that people leave, DFed, DAed, or just finally wake up after a long sleep. The mind starts questioning once again, and as soon as you are ready to become open about considering all the information presto zingo you are kicking yourself for having been so gullible.
Recently I have been studying what my garndma and my dad were reading in thier respective time peroids. Grandma was of the annointed class, sounds kind of special, untill you realize that everyone in her time was. My dad saw the dates for "Christ presence" and "the begining of the time of the end" changed around a couple times in his life time. I saw the great 1975 hype rise, burn bright, and then wither in the dust, not even to have been a "marked year" later. As though it never really happened! My kids are seeing the "last generation of 1914" being redifined. Looking at these 40 or so pages of Watchtower quotes cronoligcally with all the dates for births, marraiges, and deaths in the family, you can see two things. Why my dad and other oldsters didn't get much of a kick out of the 1975 thing, and also the total and utter fallibility of the Watchtowers application of Bible Chronology. Examining the record is in fact a very good thing to do as the Society advises us all to do! From 1874 when the "slave class" (Barbour and Russell) began thier date fixing, to 2000 as they are still molding and changing it, the one constant is simply that they have never been correct, never really had an "accurate knowledge!" Lots of excuses are offered though for the faithful followers from "we never said that" to "a true phrophet can admit thier mistakes" and my favorite of all time "we meant well." How about "many read into it" or "you shouldn't be serving for a date"? Nothing like a slap in the face from the ones who came up with the dates to begin with.
Get me going!
"a true phrophet can admit their mistakes"
I felt that desire to help everyone, save everyone, when my wife finally broke out of the shell. She never did. To her all JW's are dead. If they fell off the face of the earth, even her family, she couldn't care less. I was angry, angry over the lies and the backbiting, the trying to ruin our life. Of course it's not all them. After a year I see that now. It's me too. I have a lot of the same personality traits that are crappy. I decided to work on my own flaws and that will probably take the rest of my life. So, before anyone goes out and tries to save the world make sure you can keep your pride in check, make sure that you can overcome the hate that you have, and hate because of betrayal they will instill in you. It is so easy to become obsessive over them. They aren't worth it. When a JW newbie or oldie comes to JWD try to be understanding when they have a major "tude." It's not easy. The "world" doesn't want to be saved.
It's easy to leave all that crap behind when you simply stop caring! You have only one you. why feel compelled to live your life in fear and unhappiness because of how one organization of people feel about you as a whole? There is no magic route to exit that religion. You simply use your common sense and judgement.
Stand up for yourself even if your standing alone!
-M
It is pointless to argue their "theology" with them. They have it memorized just like you memorized the "times table" in the third grade. Doesn't make it true, just makes it memorized.
Best you just do the fade, you're depressed, you're on medication that makes you sleepy and too dangerous to drive especially at night. Don't play their silly game with them or follow their laws, their way of doing things. Do it your way and make them play by your rules. But overall best not to do anything to attract attention to yourself. Keep the fade going. All the better if you're planning on moving even if it's just across town.
Don't file a change of address with the post office. There are ways to get ahold of that information.
Move. Leave no forwarding address. When the come to do a shepherding call, you will be gone. Put your phone in someone else's name. All this is necessary only if there is family you don't want to loose. Then you've got the problem of the family ratting you out.
It ain't good anyway you look at it.
I defended JWs for years after i had physically left. I don't think threr is anyhting anyone could have said that would have changed my mind. the jws actually helped me leave. due to their extreme unkindess and serious lack of love, i arrived here. Finally i was able to start thinking for myself, and slowly i have checked out what opposers to jws say.
If anyone had told me i was in a cult, brian dead, or anything like that,it would have just put my defenses up.
So how do u help them leave? By not scaring them away. By just being there when they are ready
I know as a jw i always wondered"why are the apostates so mad? Why can't they just leave? Why are they attacking my precious Inspired org.? what does a real apostate look like? I wanted to look at their literature, but was afraid.
God bless the internet.
