If you saw a serious car accident, would you...

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  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    Yes I would try to help. But reality tells me, that there are some times, that it is useless. I would only get killed also and would not have helped anyone.

    I have answered a number of auto crashes, fires, etc. As an officer I was duty bound to do what was sensible and do able. I was bound to taking risks but not to sacrifice myself.

    I was always impressed by the willingness of bystanders to jump in and help. They were some times a great help and sometimes an unwanted nuisance.

    I would respond today, using the same reasoning.

    I don't know of any crash where the fuel tank rupture resulted in an explosion, as the word is defined. But the flames from gasoline and its vapors might as well be called an explosion. It is quick and deadly and difficult to extinguish with out the proper material.

    If the vapors from gasoline were inclosed in a space like a building or built up in a closed auto, then a true explosion could occur.

    Yes I have seen many crashes and no I will not talk about them.

    Outoftheorg

  • Uzzah
    Uzzah

    Gas tanks can and will explode but many of you are correct in that Hollywood has over dramatized it. They do not lift off the ground into the air 30 feet, do a triple barrel roll and then come crashing back to the road only to explode again. Only cars load with C4 or other such explosives will do that. A car's suspension actually absorbs the bulk of the force of the explosion.

    I have treated casualties of MVA's on the ground 15-20 feet away from vehicles that have 'exploded'. I can think of a couple of occasions where my back was turned away from the vehicle and I only knew the gas tank exploded was when someone mentioned it. I did not hear it over the noise of traffic and did not feel any rush of heat either.

    Much like a barbeque. If you take to long to light it you get a momentary WOOOOOSH and if you are within a couple of feet you will lose your eyebrows. So too if you are within a few feet of a car when the gas tank goes up, there is a quick WOOOOSH, and you will receive some burns. Now if you happen to be standing in a puddle of gas when this happens, yes your clothing could catch fire.

    If assisting in a MVA look around. Before kneeling down to help a casualty check to make sure you aren't kneeling down onto glass or in a puddle of fluid leaking from the wrecks.

    Regarding comments made about persons trapped in a burning vehicle. Ultimately it boils down to doing what you can live with. But if the car is already engulfed in flames and the driver is already on fire, you are not really doing them any favors pulling them out at that point. Not only will you likely become permanently disfigured and possibiliy lose the use of your hands due to the sever burns you will suffer, but the person already on fire in the vehicle will not have much of a life after that. The nightmares of hearing these people scream are terrible. But I am comforted knowing that I am still around to have helped dozens more after that incident. If I had have sacrificed myself to extricate the woman out of the burning car, some of those people I helped later on, could have died.

    You owe it to your family not to get yourself killed trying to help someone when you have neither the training or experience to do so.

    Any professional first aid trainers will tell you that your safety is paramount. Please get involved, do what you can, but don't put your life at risk. We need you around to help others in future incidents. Besides if you get hurt you just cause more work for the emergency personnel. EMT's prefer to only have to deal with one pt per run.

    One last comment. Small little 2 lbs (or 5 lb) fire extinguishers are useless against a car fire. Save it to use on putting out clothing that catches fire. Most fire extinguishers will only give 20-30 seconds of extinguishing agent. You can't put out much of a fire in 20 seconds. So don't even bother getting close to a car fire with an extinguisher. By the time you get close to the vehicle you will be out of agent and too damn close to the flames!

  • ikhandi
    ikhandi

    Yeah I agree with most on this one. I feel like I would obligated to help because I am a health care professional. I have helped others in similar situations like the one you described. It all depends on your conscience.

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    I did this a couple of months ago, we came on a really bad accident. A young man feel asleep at the wheel and flipped his vehicile several times, it was a miracle he was in one piece , thanks to his airbag and seat beat. It was so bad that the insides of the car , the top of his head rest, the console, parts of the seats,etc where all over the highway.

    We ran up to the car and it was on fire, not a big fire but it was starting to get worse, so we pulled him out and I sat there and held his head until EMS got there.

    I really didnt for one minute think of not helping him, and the car being on fire didnt even register to me that I could have been hurt myself, if it had exploded. Looking back it kind of scars me that it could have happened. But I would do the same again.

  • ninecharger
    ninecharger

    Ho Chi Min,

    Does this quote from the new kids' book indicate current WT policy(I mean light)?

    "[we could get in trouble] if we GOT MIXED UP (caps mine) in a fight between other people. We may not know who started the fight or why they are fighting. One person may be getting beaten up - but perhaps he stole something. If we helped him, we would be helping a thief. That would not be good, would it?"

    So if the good Samaritan had passed when the Guy was being beaten up he should have carried on by like the other two.

    In this example the driver may be drunk. If we helped him we would be helping a drunkard. That would not be good, would it? So your MS set a shining Theocrappic example from which we can all take a timely lesson!

    I would help.

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