Study July 6, 2003 Listen to What the Spirit Says

Why do the women get all the fun - are there not also Jezebel men in the congregations as well?

Doesn't the Bible say women are the feebler vessel? 1pe: 3:7. In any case I would say more Jezebel spirited men have lead congregations then women. Also in my house I am surely the servant of my wife. She rules the roost so she thinks .

Happy to make your acquaintance, noko. I can relate to what you say:

In any case I would say more Jezebel spirited men have lead congregations then women. Also in my house I am surely the servant of my wife. She rules the roost so she thinks

I am sure my JW honey would be lost if I left him in charge. I have also discovered that if I don't make dinner, he would surely starve to death.

Why do the women get all the fun - are there not also Jezebel men in the congregations as well?

This type of attitude really p****s me off.

The society directs the Elders to perpetuate the myth of inequality through articles designed to paint a derogatory picture of women.

They label us with offensive innuendos that keep chipping away at our supposedly 'weak' characters,

untrustworthy natures and Matahari like conniving tendancies for spiritually or sexually 'ruining' any man ( as if he is powerless to resist )

Do they think they are so weak that they cannot help their fall from grace once we set our sights on corrupting them ?

Or are all women, whether outside or within the congregation; potential 'Eve's' just awaiting their opportunity to be the executer of the next man's ruination ?

I have always had a problem with male 'authority' in any situation due to an overbearing, cold and abusive father and struggled with 'subjecting' myself to men within the congregation, which was partly the reason for my perceived 'attitude' problem.

I now choose to reject all scripture that leads the reader to think women are inferiorto men and need their direction.

So, I have had to reject the Bible in my life at this point.I still try to keep to the good principles within it; sermon on the mount etc; but the abuse of women within it's pages is so monsterous that I can't tolerate any Christian man now if they start spouting 'wifely subjection' passages at me.

The only reason I would intermittantly accept their 'authority' was that the scripture that women should keep quiet and not teach would be thrown at me and I could'nt argue with it- it was there in black and white and if I wanted to be approved of I had to accept it and hope those 'taking the lead' would'nt abuse their position; but they did.

Now I can fully reject all those scriptures and go back to being the man -hating women I always was ( joke ! )

Thanks for this Jgnat; boy , am I glad to be out of there.

Termite of the 'I-love -men-but-could'nt- eat- a- whole- one ' class

Termite, this JW mindset has probably done more to push me to feminism than anything else. If such articles are designed to justify the removal of Jezebel women, who will be left in the organization?

• Weak-minded men
• Jezebel men
• Weak-minded women

A terrifying trend, I think, is the constant reference to corruption within. That has got to build a paranoid society, not healthful at all.

4 Even if we have a fine record, however, we must never be careless about our morals .
9 What if we have the reputation of being awake spiritually but we are largely asleep to Christian privileges and our service activities are perfunctory and spiritually “ready to die”? 9 ... we should revitalize our efforts in sacred service. 9 We certainly ought to start participating wholeheartedly in Christian meetings. 11 What if we discern that we are getting sleepy spiritually? We should act quickly for our own good. 11 Suppose we are being drawn to ungodly ways or are becoming lax in meeting attendance or in our ministry. 22 All of us can continue to benefit from ...counsel...as long as we apply it prayerfully and without delay.

Same old, same old. Do more, do more, do more...and when you've done that do some more and reach out for those Christian Privileges™

meetings=spirituality, service=spirituality, Laxness = spiritual death and ungodliness, complacency=spiritual danger, blah, blah, blah.

I see problems lurking on the horizon. As the WTBTS gets in deeper and deeper do-do I predict Witch Hunts that will make Salem look like a Methodist picnic. Watchout you single women, widows, etc.

Mark my words

I believe you, Francois. I wonder, though, if the targets will rather be married women (the headstrong ones) and non-believing spouses, both sexes. After all, it is these folk that are unlikely to swallow the WT line.

I see broken homes. Lots of broken homes.

Since meeting up with a recently disfellowshipped elder's wife I have now heard of 4 women within that congregation who have left their husbands and have all emerged ready to emancipate themselves - they are really coming to terms witht he fact that they are as good as men after years of taking a subserviant role.

Their wake up call happened from within, slowly but surely and I'm wondering whether as our culture advances, slowly but surely in the right direction, that the witnesses will see such a huge divide between the culture of today's world and their backward society that their views on the world will be too obviously weighted in favour of men to work as the catalist for the disapearence of thousands of women.

Let's hope they take their husbands with them. After all, hopefully the jw boys of today should be a little less like their fathers due to the policies and views at their schools that they will have experienced from the age of 5-18. Finger's crossed !