Muhammad is my savior!

by d0rkyd00d 60 Replies latest jw friends

  • Ginger
    Ginger

    TR,

    I hope you'll overlook the Professor's mistake. He's been distracted lately, worrying that his banana may turn black and fall off the tree.

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    GinnyTosken,

    Sounds like Spong has very little faith in God in the fact that God knows everyones situation including the sanitation worker in Newark.

    I have read one of Spongs books about 5 years ago. I can't remember which one. From what I remember he sounded confused as to what to believe about God.

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    TR,

    Believing in a religion is not believing in God. The religion usually confuses the issue of God and before you know it, you turn into a JW or Mormon or any other group that believes they are exclusive and has a monopoly on God. Of course you know this already.

    Take care my friend

  • professor
    professor

    Oops! Your right is was "da Judge" who instigated that. Wasn't it part of the "Advertise! Advertise! Advertise!" campaign.

    And Ginger you've been doggin' me since I dissed your first come-on. Don't take it personally, okay? Everyone knows you're all that!

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    RELIGION, by Joseph Rutherford, 1940

    "Religion Is a Snare and a Racket" (page 383) That slogan emblazoned placards carried by groups of JWs in 1938 and 1939 as they staged "information marches" down city streets past Catholic and Protestant churches.

  • GinnyTosken
    GinnyTosken

    Scorpion,

    If God knows everyone's situation, what is the point of prayer? Do many prayers affect God's actions toward someone suffering with an illness? Whatever Spong believes about God, I think his point is valid. Will someone who is not a believer, or for whom no one prays, suffer more than a person who has friends who do pray?

    I like the questions Spongs asks. In Why Christianity Must Change or Die, his conception of God as "the ground of all being" is far from the mainstream idea of a personified diety. As an agnostic, I don't feel the need to cling to the Christian worldview to be a good person. For some reason, Spong needs this framework, even if he redefines most of the terms. Perhaps his approach helps people to bridge the gap between the world of the 1st century and the world of the 21st century. If one chooses to embrace the Christian worldview, I think Spong's questions are worth considering.

    Ginny

  • Ginger
    Ginger

    Professor,

    I guess Mrs. Howell isn't the only one complaining about the heat, eh?

    I can't resist rumpling your starched shirt. You're so cute when you're flustered.

    Ginger

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    Ginny,

    You said: If God knows everyones situation, what is the point of prayer.

    Prayer to me is communication with God, just as a child would communicate with their parents. How the parent answers depends on the situation. I am not God, so I cannot tell you why some prayers are answered and some are not.

    I understand Spongs point as far as believers and unbelievers suffering. Whether this happens in all cases, I doubt it!

  • d0rkyd00d
    d0rkyd00d

    Stranger things have happened than prayer not being answered....

  • JT
    JT

    your post truly hilites the challenge that believers have when trying to explain the unexplainable

    how sad

    great post and excellent point

    "Which Prayers do god hear and which god is answering them"
    smile

    james

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