by El Kabong 29 Replies latest jw friends
Beelzebub,
Never thought of that point. A clearly new thought!
Satan and his sandbox. Maybe we have it all backwards.
Maybe the inspired writers of the bible changed the names of the actual reality to give God the credit.
Hey what if we were here until we suffer enough then we get to move on to another planet where everything is truly made of gold and goodness.
Just my thought or lack of it today.
Cathy
Ravyn,
I think that is some form of karma. However what I have been reading one does pay for wrongs in the next life from a preveous one. This is a concept I have trouble. Should I not feel sorry for a child who was molested because he is likely paying for his own actions as a molester in a previous life? And why can't I remember things from my preveous life? Anyway I think I am stuck on the same level of game play. I need some cheat codes.
Cathy,
One thing that sets Man apart from other animals is our abiltity to build and create. We build houses, create art, music, etc. So why would not the angles have the same qualities?
Maybe satan wanted to create a little something of his own to enjoy and control. Like a little kid who wants to copy an adult and builds a crude play house in the back yard or of legos, maybe Satan or some other angel wanted to create too. They just could not get it as good as the master builder god could. Maybe he did not have the same ability to create in the spirit world so he created a physical world, like the legos of children, fun to play with, but not the real thing. This would explain all the problems in the world. anyway it makes more sense than a perfect god who create this screwed up world.
Here is a question. If man had the ability to create life, would he? Of course he would. So why not an angle who was envious of god's creations and wanted some for himself.
Of course this is all speculation, and likely as good a thery as earth being a reality series for space aliens.
Ravyn,
Well, I see you've done a lot of fantasizing on the subject. Woah.
B
Amazing points to ponder.
Will write these down for those rainy days i have nothing left to do except ponder.
Thank you
Cathy
logan: bite me.
cathy---I don't think that bad things are paying for anything, they just happen and we have a choice to take the high road and learn something or not. and cheat codes would be nice! I can remember some of my past lives. I think it comes in stronger the closer you get to finishing up the lessons.
Ravyn
Not sure if I have taken the high road as I left everything and everyone behind.
My life has been pure hell. I just chose to become a workaholic.
Maybe next time I won't have to come back. Maybe I will get Angel status.
Thanks Ravyn
Cathy
What if absolutely nothing has gone wrong? Everything is continuously progressing exactly as it is supposed to?
Our total earthly existance is an excersize and none of this is real. All of the turmoil and suffering around us is an illusion?
There is only pass or fail and proceed to the next level.
I'm not saying I believe that. All I am suggesting is, why do we always conclude that things went wrong? Or things got screwed up? If we are going to believe in all these higher realms then why put mortal limits on them.
Should I not feel sorry for a child who was molested because he is likely paying for his own actions as a molester in a previous life?
Remember that scripture whereby Jesus is asked about the Blind man? His disciples asked him, "Is this man blind from birth because of something he'd done, or something his parents had done". Instead of Jesus rebuking the idea of reincarnation, he answered, "Neither. but so that the grace of God could be shown." and then he cured the blind man.
Important points to ponder:
1) Jesus did not rebuke the idea of reincarnation. (If the disciples question was stupid, I would've fully expected Jesus to tell them so, in plain language)
2) His disciples (having already been with Jesus for some time), were already familiar with the concept of reincarnation in order for them to ask the question. They specifically asked if the man had done something bad, *before* being born!
3) The disciples were making guesses as to the "true" nature of the man's blindness - but got it wrong on BOTH counts.
4) How do we know, the blind man (before birth) did not volunteer for the role of "blind man". I can just image a bunch of Actors (in Heaven) and Christ says, "I'll be in Earth in 50 years playing the part of Jesus, I need a blind person to be cured. It will be difficult, but the rewards will be great - Do I have any volunteers?"
Thoughts anyone?
I believe in reincarnation. I feel our soul can depart and move on in the next realm.
I believe we come back here with things that we want to experience. We do have the ability to choose the high or low road.
I also have reason to believe that Jesus did believe in reincarnation. According to the book of Thomas.
I also feel astrologically that we are able to access the energy given to us and use it to our greatest good or detriment.
I firmly believe that in our birthcharts karma is a signature of where we don't want to go but also the signature of shown by the South Node (past issues), North Node (this life) what we want to accomplish in this life. Karma as I believe is setting up contacts in this life for when we need them. Those contacts help us through the hardest part of our lives. They may be considered soul mates. I believe soul mates are our friends through many lifetimes and we don't necessarily marry them. A soul companion is someone we marry. I also believe before our first Saturn return we finish up old karmic business. We choose a life that will shield or give us we need most to help us remember faster.
After the Saturn return we start on a new path. We begin to question things that were never questionable. How many times since you were 28-30 have you questioned things done in life? I also believe the generation that is now 18-25 is exceeding at faster rates because they are going to become healers for mankind. They will need the years to study and excell at all things. I feel there will be changes in the future that will be amazing. These young ones will not live in a world that has become stale and unselfish.
Cathy
I believe soul mates are our friends through many lifetimes and we don't necessarily marry them.
It's funny, I've never heard anyone else express this before, but I believe this too.
