I have something to say (page 3)

kelpie

(Dede and Jes)

Im not sure what the story is but Im sorry to hear that you are both hurting and have been hurt. You both are extremely honest and genuine.

I love you both

Kelps

Xena

ditto to what brummie said

edited to add a (((()))) to dede cause ya know I love ya girl!

Bendrr

Just how did this turn into an assault on StinkyPantz?

Jessika posted a thread publicly calling someone a snake and a liar. Her exact words.

PG made one reply to the charges and I believe him. Put into his situation I'd have done the same thing. So would a lot of you if you were in his position. So he doesn't want to be called an apostate. So what? Is that a bad thing for a Witness, even one on the fence?

Like I said earlier, there's two sides to every story and this one is no exception. I doubt that PG will come back to tell his side of it. But I've heard enough of the private details of it to know who to believe and not to believe.

Sorry, but Jessika ain't the innocent victim here.

Mike.

Big Tex

Let's all tap that brake.

No one is attacking SP. Xandria pointed something out and SP agreed with it. SP also made a cogent point and she said she believed Dede and Jesika. Keep that in mind.

As for anything else, we don't know until the parties involved decide to make it public. Until then, in my most humble opinion, the situation bears watching. I wasn't there, neither were most of the people on this thread.

All I know is that Dede is someone I listen to. PG seems to be someone who has been consistent, but he has also admitted to lying. Dede and Jesika have not.

This doesn't need to be bigger than it has to be.

WildTurkey

Ok, I don’t post here anymore but I have to say this is really something.

First of all we invited PG into our house for a week, took him out to the nightclubs, and restaurants. We treated him very well, made sure he didn’t pay for one thing. He came here not only to party, but also to learn about the org.

But he really did not care about the truth, and even told me that he had no intention of leaving the “truth”. He said he was a good actor, he doesn’t care one way or another if this is the truth or not. He wants to party with the “apostates” and still stay in the Jws, and if you don’t have problem with so be it, but he damn sure deceived Jess he knew her and acted, as he didn’t. Most ladies I know don’t like to be treated that way.

I want to thank many of you like Reborn and Big Tex for being gentleman and all the ladies her too. I feel you stood up for my wife, and her and I really appreciate your friendship.

And for some of you if you would like to talk to me about it, I would be happy to talk to you about face to face.

SheilaM

I believe to accept hospitality from someone and then pee in their pool is low. Thank you WT for clarifying a very muddled situation.

Dede I can understand I hope you and Jes are OKI know it hurts to be betrayed and I hope PG realizes how crappy that was. I guess in dubdom this is customary to be duplicitious but in apostateville it doesn't go over at all. As Thunder says K' Pla LOL

Brummie

WT, I really never saw any of these comments as an attack on Lyin, why is this thread being made to look like it is? I apologise to lyin wholeheartedly if anyone has attacked her and I am being insensitive to where this happened.

Brummie.

WildTurkey

Brummie, I didn’t say she was attacked, I thanked our friends for standing up and believing her. Im sorry I gave that impression. I considered PG a friend even when I was in the borg but, he is just playing now and I do not respect it. I have not bashed him, and may be it could have been handle better by jess, but I understand her. She was hurt cause she was deceived , it was not drama she sit outside and cried for an hour.

Prisca

I think this is all a storm in a teacup.

primitivegenius

well now i understand more about why you guys are so upset at me. the superior jw look and saying i wasnt an apostate........... i was sitting here thinking that was it............. and feeling bad enough about it. i dont think im better than anyone and im confused about alot of things so i an inconsistant sometimes. ive appologized and i appologize again. even tho its worth nothing because i know yall think im playing and im not.

But he really did not care about the truth, and even told me that he had no intention of leaving the “truth”. He said he was a good actor, he doesn’t care one way or another if this is the truth or not.

you got this all wrong tho. my words sometimes dont come out the way i mean for them to. what i was trying to get across is that i dont want to be dfed or da........ i want to fade so that i can still have my family. ive seen alot of the things the wt has done..... the child molestation, the lies. and many other things so i dont think that they have the truth. you asked me if i could ever be in the cong again after knowing what i know.... and i said i could but never the way i was before. this is where the acting part came in........ i could act a good jw even tho my time sheets would prove me different. i could never give talks because thats more lies by the wt. right now i dont know what i should do........ i did my little bit of wild things but i keep comein back to the realization that even tho the wt is wrong......... some of the things i always took to be gods standards are still right. so im trying to balance myself. i do wanna know what the truth is and where it can be found and i dont think the wt has it. that you thought from what i said that i meant that................... im sorry i muddled up what i was trying to say but it shocks me a bit.

i intended to not post again to keep things normal and let those who i felt had more rights here have them freely but then i saw this and was trying to think of a way to show how i felt about everyone and to let people know that dede and denny were nothing but wonderful to me untill the very end of my visit there and then they cooled off and i didnt know why.......... now i do and i deserved it. i wish that i had known why because i woulda have appologised then and tried to explain myself better.

yall i have been friends with wt and lyin for years and there great people..... like they said i came down and had a wonderful time. they paid for everything which was the only way i coulda came down since i only had a little cash for gas due to being layed off. they were absolutely wonderful, they took me out to the clubs......... something i had never done before as a dub. i had a blast..... it was the most fun i ever had. i know that sounds pathetic and ill accept that as my personal description from now on. they are the greatest.... the fact that i brought any of this upon them makes me sick to my stomach. they didnt deserve any of it and im a sh*t for putting it on them. i didnt realize that things were rolling this way till after the fact. if i could have seen my actions resulting in this......... id have stopped it somehow. hind sight is 20/20 and there is nothing i can do about it now except say im sorry and tell everyone that they are great.

this is you guys chat and forum not mine, and ill leave it that way. the only way ill post here again is if i can find better words to appologise cause right now i just cant think of enough of them.

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