Working in the DC chairman's office....

by logansrun 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Let me go back about six years to the 1997 District Convention. I was an "up and coming" MS at the time (only 20 years old!) and was asked by my PO (a circuit "heavy") to be his assistant (read: gopher) in the Chariman's office. What a privelege!

    Well, I got to see all the speakers. Yep, every last one of them. I sat in a room filled with about a dozen of the top-notch speakers in the Chicago/Northern Indiana area along with the DO and a couple visiting Bethelites. I even got to walk some of them out onto the stage. (For those of you from the Windy City, this was at Hawthorne Race Course. Weird to have a convention there, wasn't it?)

    Well, one would think that I was among the most spiritual people in the Midwest at the time. Why, everyone would be paying attention to the program and following along in their Bibles, taking notes and all.

    NOT!

    Pretty much, it was a social affair -- a chance for the "heavies" to hang out and chew the fat. I wasn't talked to much since I was a nobody. Oh, the Circuit overseers talked about their circuit and all the problems they had and who was where and what not. One phrase did catch my attention. One of the CO's (I wish I could remember his name) would occassionally put his arms behind his head, his feet on the desk (I'm not making this up) in front of him and say, "It just doesn't get any better than this!"

    Months later, I heard a different CO say the exact same line! Is this some trade secret or something? It does say something about the hunger for status in the organization, doesn't it?

    Oh, during one afternoon the DO (Paul Illingworth) actually went into his office and announced he was going to take a nap. A nap! Wow. You won't find that in the "Proclaimers" book! What a great example! (He said he was up late talking to some elder. Bah!)

    All in all I got this distinct impression: the traveling overseers and "big-shot" elders pretty much have their own culture and like to associate within their own group. Oh, they will condescend for the rest of the rank and file or "petty" elders, but they will only OPEN UP around their kind. And when they do, you find out they are just like everyone else -- except they don't have to play by all the little silly rules like paying attention to the program or not talking during the session. One of them even -- gasp! -- was eating during the session! There definately was a "priveleged guardian" mentality among them.

    Okay, so there you have it. My commentary for the night.

    Bradley

  • minimus
    minimus

    Illingworth was probablt too tired studying Greek. He loved to say epignosis, accurate knowlede in Greek, knowledge based on experience.....He loved to think he was a Greek scholar.

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Minimus,

    Ah, so you know him. Actually, I kinda liked the guy. He was a phenomenal speaker for a JW (just pretty good if you're not). I do remember that about him. Still, I think the prestige got to his head. My sister and I had a running joke that there is no such thing as a nice and humble District Overseer. (This was very unusual for my sister to joke about).

    No, really -- I believe it. I've met nice CO's, but I've never met a "nice" DO. The last one I had (Obrien) was a real @$&! imho.

    Bradley

  • minimus
    minimus

    I was in the Chairman's Office when we I was chairman of the Circuit Assembly and guess who the D.O. was? It was Sam Herd, the future Governing Body member. He was a tired, cold guy. People would run up to him and do everything but try to get his autograph. He told me one afternoon that all he wanted was some peace and quiet and if anybody wanted to see him that he needed to get some rest and that he would not be available. He never seemed like a people person. Regarding Illingworth, I always enjoyed his teaching and speaking ability.

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Another thing about Illingworth....

    He would practically announce at every assembly that it was Illingworth, not IllingSworth. Hahaha...

    Bradley

  • minimus
    minimus

    That's where I got, "It is minimus NOT mini mus".......

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    Logansrun,

    Interesting post. I like your screen name too, back in the day that was an awesome movie...back wihn Farah Fawcett wasn't a Major yet. Is that a bust of Constantine in your avatar?

  • Euphemism
    Euphemism

    Hey, I had Illingworth too! Gotta agree, he was an intelligent man, and a good speaker. Very socially conservative, but--judging from his talks, at least--far more open-minded and compassionate than your average DO.

    No, really -- I believe it. I've met nice CO's, but I've never met a "nice" DO.

    Same here. Probably because the CO's at least have to deal with ordinary, R&F dubs. The DOs mostly just deal with elders. They live in a very isolated world.

    Did anyone have Steve Konjevich? Personally, I thought of him as Steve Sonofabitch. He could be humorous, even friendly, on a social level... but in his official capacity, he was one of the most anal-retentive brothers I've met.

    DO before him was Paul Moskie. From what I remember, his talks were unremarkable but not terrible. My only direct interaction with him was a walk-through for an interview on the CA. He was obsessed with the first interviewee flipping the microphone cord out of the way, so that the others wouldn't trip on it. The problem is, the cord was already out of the way, so when I flipped it, it didn't move! So he kept making me flip it again and again. Finally, I dragged it forward, so that I could flip it out of the way, and he was finally happy.

  • Axelspeed
    Axelspeed

    Having worked in a similar capacity in the past, i agree totally. It is a different world. And when regular r&f elders were in the presence of the CO & DO, it was brown-nosing 101 that rivals any corporate setting. Seeing how men that I had looked up to growing up, and how they just about cowered, jumped and shuffled in front of these guys out of what seemed like mortal fear was an eye opener. Looking back that was probably the beginning of me waking up from the illusion.

    He was obsessed with the first interviewee flipping the microphone cord out of the way, so that the others wouldn't trip on it. The problem is, the cord was already out of the way, so when I flipped it, it didn't move! So he kept making me flip it again and again. Finally, I dragged it forward, so that I could flip it out of the way, and he was finally happy.

    LOL! So true, some of these guys are obsessed with the microphone and cords. I've known some that insist on a certain "degree of angle" for the mic.

    Axelspeed

  • shamus
    shamus

    Spiritual paradise lives on..... I love the troof.

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