not really "gathered together" though--are they ?
Memorial Prep question
by ExCircuitOverseer 33 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Chezdale
I understand completely Ex,
here is what I know is happening here... my wife usually attends all the meetings on Zoom, including Circuit O’seer weeks, assemblies and several Field Service meetings per week. She is pioneering at present and has a pressure band on her hand from all the letter writing. I offered to print stuff up for her, however, with handwriting one can count time.. so sad.
With the memorial this Saturday she is going to a neighbour sister down the road and they are making the bread and buying the wine.
There was a part during week’s meetings (as someone already commented) about the bread. I know she is getting together with several to buy some wine.
I won’t go as I now feel bad Not doing what Jesus Christ said. I might make “other” arrangements.
There is a paragraph within an article a couple of years back noting that the bread and wine (physically) would NOT be needed if not partaking.
Personally I feel the whole thing is screwed up and a parody and a joke the way it is done. ALL should partake. And with the conscious thought as to WHY!
To sit around AFTERWARDS and nibble the bread, discuss the wine and laugh and go their ways as God’s chosen is a travesty.
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Chezdale
Just to add. And to answer your question.
There has been no comment that it is “vital” nor is it a “suggestion”.
Most, I know have regarded it as very special occasion. Best clothes etc ..
This could be the LAST Memorial!! (We said that all through the 80s 90s .. .)
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hoser
It is virtue signalling. Making an external appearance of spirituality. It is the same as wearing a convention badge to the zoom meeting last summer to be seen by others. It is the same as having a visible share in the ministry when we used to go door to door.
This religion is a joke. If they could just see themselves from the outside they would realize how shallow and superficial they really are. Jehovah’s witnesses wouldn’t know spirituality if it hit them in the side of the head.
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mynameislame
I assume the wine still needs to be Kosher i.e. made under the supervision of someone that doesn't believe in Jesus?
And how times have changed since the 80s!
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FFGhost
Actually, they've never stated the requirement that the wine has to be kosher. They just say "unfortified red wine."
In one article a while back, they even suggested using Chianti - I $#!+ you not.
Apparently, Brother Has_An_Italian_Wine_Distributorship needed a little marketing boost that year.
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mynameislame
Thanks FFGhost. I guess the easy choice is the Kosher stuff since there's no thinking involved.
I just remember that bottle of Manischewitz was always in the fridge at my house the day after the memorial. Well it probably didn't actually make it to the next day.
(and I guess the resize image option doesn't work)
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StephaneLaliberte
Its not a requirement, but frankly, I don't see the big deal. Its the only thing they celebrate. So why not put some heart into it? No birthdays, St-Valentine, {country}’s day, veteran day, Halloween, thanks giving, Christmas, new years eve, new years day, virtually nothing else but their “memorial”. Even if we don’t agree with the procedure, I see nothing wrong in putting a lot of efforts into it.
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BluesBrother
Most of the dubs I know are baking unleavened bread and getting the red wine.I thank my lucky stars that my wife is practical enough to say that since we are not anointed there is no point.
What to do with it afterwards? I guess it is up to the individual. When I conducted a memorial one year I found an article that directed what sort of wine to buy and bread to have. I just bought a bottle of red plonk and a packet of Jewish matzohs.. keep it simple.
After the memorial some friends came around and we had a nice supper with red wine cheese and matzohs.
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EverApostate
My JW wife was particular in getting the wine prescribed by the GB. CHIANTI. It wasnt available in a local wine store and we had to drive miles to get it.
I asked her "Will you drink it during the ceremony"
She replied "No"
I asked "Can I drink it"
She replied "No, I would pour it down after the event"
I asked "If you are pouring it down why do you want to take all pains to buy it "
She threw a tantrum