Re:
the
differences between erchomai and parousia.
Bobcat wrote: "The first difference between these two words is
that erchomai is a verb; parousia is
a noun. Erchomai expresses movement, parousia is
an event. And thus, the two words can be used in the same context,
such as at Mt 24:36-44. The verbs in the context describing Jesus'
"coming" (vss. 37, 42, 44) are all part of the event,
his parousia. (vs. 39) Parousia means
"presence," but the way it is used in the NT and anciently
gives it an added flavor that, to me, "presence" does not
convey. It is more like an official state visit, with all that such a
visit would include. In the NT, parousia is
associated with Jesus rewarding his faithful servants and punishing
the others."
My understanding is that: whereas, “parousia” invariably
refers to the Lord's second coming at the consummation (world
judgment) erchomia refers to the 70 AD judgment on Jerusalem because
of their rejection of the Messiah.
The parables clearly suggest on this:
Mar
12:9 What shall therefore the lord of the vineyard do?
He will
come (ἔρχομαι
erchomai) and destroy the
husbandmen, and will give the vineyard unto others.
Matthew
21:
38
But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves,
This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his
inheritance.
39
And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40
When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh (ἔρχομαι
erchomai), what
will he do unto those husbandmen?
41
They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and
will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render
him the fruits in their seasons.
42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The
stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the
corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from
you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44
And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on
whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
45
And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables,
they perceived that he spake of them.
.
Luke
20:
13
Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my
beloved son: it may be they will reverence him
when they see him.
Luk
20:14 But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among
themselves, saying, This is the heir: come let us kill him, that the
inheritance may be ours.
Luk
20:15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him.
What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them?
Luk
20:16 He shall come (ἔρχομαι
erchomai),
and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others.
And when they heard it,
they said, God forbid.
Luk
20:17 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is
written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become
the head of the corner?
Luk
20:18 Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on
whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
Luk
20:19 And the chief priests and the scribes the same hour sought to
lay hands on him; and they feared the people: for they perceived that
he had spoken this parable against them.
The
timing on this is relevant:
Mat
10:23 But when they persecute you in this
city, flee into the next: for verily I say unto you, Ye
shall not have gone through the cities of Israel, till the Son of man
be come (ἔρχομαι
erchomai).
Luk
9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which
shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Mat
16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which
shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming
(ἔρχομαι
erchomai)
in
his kingdom.
Matthew 24:34 This
coming in vengeance, would climax the tribulation and occur in the
lifespan of Christ's own generation.
