Joey, its true sea sand is less ideal but much of the developing world uses it. Properly rinsed of salt it can work fine unless it needs to be engineered for proscribed strength. They built an entire KH in S. America using sand under our feet, portland cement and 4 brick molds. Yes, it took a while. I was there one day, and I think we made a dozen bricks.
Jehovah delivers sand for a Kingdom Hall project in Micronesia
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Overrated
I wonder how many donation dollars it cost to build this Kingdumb Hall? You think they would give a credit in Gee-hovah Bucks sense they found sand for free.
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Sigfrid Mallozzi
Jehovah numbers the sand of the seas. He is such a mathematician, sand, stars, hair on your head, etc. He just doesn't balance the Societies checkbook very well.
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joey jojo
Pete, you are right, I should have used the term 'less ideal' for building. I personally wouldn't want anything structural built with it though.
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BluesBrother
Over the years I have heard all sorts of contrived experiences that purportedly prove that Jehovah’s blessing is on a project, be it a Kingdom Hall , Assembly Hall or whatever.
My wife and I always exchanged looks that said “oh yes”? With a questioning expression. Sometimes the coincidence was minor, sometimes big but it could always be seen as just a coincidence.
Here a typhoon appears on cue, not to damage the precious project but just enough to deliver the sand. Is Jehovah responsible? Like Prospero In Shakespeare’s “ The Tempest”
If he were, consider the damage this typhoon must have done elsewhere, they escaped but somebody must have copped it. Are they saying their God is willing to hurt , even kill people just to supply building materials?
That is not the god that I know.
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Harry
If that sand is unsuitable for making good long lasting concrete maybe Satan has a hand in doing this ???
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Anna Marina
It just seem unreasonable designing an extension with materials that are hard to come by.
But unreasonable is what WT does. One elder in local cong oversaw many construction projects. The brothers gave him a nickname...
(Exodus 5:10) . . .So those who drove the people to work and their officers went out and said to the people: “Here is what Pharaoh has said, ‘I am giving you no more straw.
... his nickname was Pharaoh. They hated working for him.
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wozza
They really are becoming mainstream when they say god is performing miracles for them in the form of sand !
Shows how cynical the GB is to fool the dumb sheep with this story. We are talking about making construction grade concrete for a public building are'nt we ?
Well I worked for 18 years in the concrete manufacturing industry including the actual manufacturing ,management and laboratory of concrete production ,and I can safely say that you do not use salty beach sand for construction !
As has been pointed out sea water is full of chemicals including salts which will make the concrete go hard prematurely which in turn can cause bad cracking.
Sand that is used in concrete production is washed and screened to remove impurities and the particles are graded in size carefully ,even iff the beach sand was washed to remove salts it is basically a same size grains silica sand with no fine clay type particles which basically makes a "dead" mix, even with the cement added to the mix, it won't be workable and if a concrete pump were used in the placing it would probably jam the pump from it's lack of ability to flow, and finishing the surface would be a nightmare unless lots of certain chemicals such as air entrainers were used to aerate the mix.
Not to mention ,over time, how the salts in the mix will break the cementicious bond and rust the rebar before it's time!
So iff the GB OK the use of this crappy type concrete thru their "theocratic arrangement" and Jehovahs poor judgement of sand choice ,well that just about confirms their standards in religion and building quality, and also how cynically they view the local islanders as poor dumb slobs and how that will be ok for them !
But I bet they would'nt like to use that sand to build the house they live in hoping the concrete will hold the building up - (words deleted here I have to stop that!)
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Anna Marina
I am not a contrete person. But having gained insight I have developed a new interest.
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Wozza
The standards in 3rd world are lower. I question enough clean water to wash the sand, not to mention the round grains instead of sharp sand. Since armageddon is coming the hall needs only stand a few years. The good old wattle and daub with a thatched roof was not as bad as we think. I asked a brother who went to Warwick about the similarity with quick builds. He said the work there was not like the sloppy work in local kh,s. And EVERYTHING he did was torn out the next day, and he was skilled.