Free to sin but still cannot bring myself to do it (page 5)

sinboi

Thanks Old Navy for your info and advice.

I have always wanted to join the uniform group. I think I will feel smart and proud in uniform. But I was not able to join any uniform group bcos I was in the wt prison. Just last week, I was watching a parade at school. Feel really depressed. If not for the wt, I could be the one conducting the parade.

Regarding the military issue, I think I have adjusted my thinking. One of the commandments is 'Thou Shall Not kill' but the Israelites still go to battle, killing many people. As for bayonet fighting, if I need to defend myself, my family and friends, I don't think I will hesitate to kill.

Again, you guys keep on telling me go slow, take baby steps. There don't seem to be any sense of urgency in this forum. But on you tube, and among my christian friends, they are so excited about Rev 12 and september 23rd. Sun darken, moon blood red and now the sign in Rev 12. It was a surprise to me that this was not discussed over here .

Okay..okay..even if you guys have refuted the Bible and the war of Armagedon, what about man made end of the world? From how I see it, world war 3 may break out soon. A nuclear winter may result. Want me to take baby steps? No way! I don't want my life to end with my genitals in good condition but unused! Maybe I need to see a psychiatrist for my obsession with my genitals and sex...

pale.emperor

Okay..okay..even if you guys have refuted the Bible and the war of Armagedon, what about man made end of the world? From how I see it, world war 3 may break out soon. A nuclear winter may result. Want me to take baby steps? No way!

Yes sinboi, the world could end at any moment due to some nutter in North Korea or anywhere else for that matter. Which is why we all should enjoy our lives and be true to ourselves. There is no "sin", sinboi. Dont harm anyone and dont be a dick and we'll all get on just fine.;

This obsession with your genitals... go and get laid.

sinboi

punkofnice - What is your first language? Where are you from?

Thanks for your comment and link to jwfacts. I knew of this site and have visited it several times.

My 1st language is English. I am from Asia. Sorry, can't disclose my exact country. There are not many JWs here. They can easily find out who I am (dA/d 3 mths ago, age 16). They will then pressure my dad to kick me out of the house for visiting "apostates" sites.

Smiddy3- Obviously you are under the misguided belief that everybody who leaves the JW religion is going to embark on an orgy of sin and depravity .

No, I strongly disagree with that. I wanted to experiment with sex solely due to the physical needs of my body and peer pressure from my friends. Even while I was a JW, I masturbated daily thinking about sex. I have known several ex JWs who live a godly way of life. Some of them join the churches and one switch to buddhism.

JWs are a white washed grave. Many of them are just a bunch of self rightous ppl.

punkofnice

sinny - My 1st language is English. I am from Asia. Sorry, can't disclose my exact country.

That's fine. You do not need to say where you're from. It just helps me to understand what you are meaning when you say things...you know....a cultural perspective and all that.

There are not many JWs here.

Then you are more trapped than most, I fear.

They can easily find out who I am (dA/d 3 mths ago, age 16). They will then pressure my dad to kick me out of the house for visiting "apostates" sites.

Then you need to be stealthy. Take your time and give nothing away.

At least your mind is becoming free, gradually.

Just take your own time. Breathe!

deegee

Sinboi,

There are persons who believe that the

Tanakh, Talmud, Torah, Vedic Scriptures, Bhagavad Gita, Quran (Koran), Hadith, Avesta

are god's word just as you believe that the Bible is god's word. Why are you right and they wrong?

sinboi

deegee -Why are you right and they wrong?

Very good question. I thought about it for over 30 mins. Here is my answer :

I was told since birth that it is the word of god. For 16 years, nobody has proven to me it is not.

OK. The words above pass the audit. I think I have misunderstood your intention earlier. I thought you wanted to belittle me for being a fool in believing that the Bible is the word of God.I have got myself heated up. If we were to be talking face2face, it would result in an argument, maybe even a fight. Luckily I pause before hitting the post button.

I read your previous posts and know your intention is good. Your intention is to question my definition of 'sin'. Sin against who? God? How I know I will be sinning against God? The Bible. How u know the bible is from God?

Come on. I have been out for less than 3 months. You cannot expect me to forget everything I learn for the past 16 years in less than 3 months. Do you? Give me time please...

I am using the Bible to throw out all the wt rubbish. But many are stubbornly stuck in my brain. Just like last nite. Maybe it was late and I was extremely tired. When I read Honest post, I thought the devil is speaking. Don't know why I associate Honest "It is not a sin" to the serpent's words to Eve "You will not die". It scared the hell out of me and I nearly wanted to wake up my dad. Only in the morning did I realise it was the wt words " The devil is waiting to devour those leaving Jehovah's Organization" that have caused me to react that way. I have thrown out these words from my conscious mind but it is still staying in my subconscious..

Anders Andersen

I was told since birth that it is the word of god. For 16 years, nobody has proven to me it is not.

Other religious people have exactly the same feeling ;-)

Quran - for muslim. It is the most evil religious book , telling believers to chop off heads of non-believer.

Read Deuteronomy 13, then think about how it compares to what you wrote above...remember, Deut. 13 is just a single chapter. There's a lot more similar verses in the Bible...

pale.emperor

Sinboi, can you prove to me that the Satanic Bible is not true?

Giordano

Two thoughts to share. When believing JW's lurk on this site they still cling to the WTBTS. The brain washing or hard wiring is dominant. It's going to take a while.

What you experienced last night with the post that made you angry is a very real reaction. It's called Cognitive Dissonance.

In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort (psychological stress) experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values. The occurrence of cognitive dissonance is a consequence of a person's performing an action that contradicts personal beliefs, ideals, and values; and also occurs when confronted with new information that contradicts said beliefs, ideals, and values.

Even while I was a JW, I masturbated daily thinking about sex.

Ok since this has come up...no pun intended...... Believe it or not that's a good thing to engage in as it's a healthy bodily function and everyone including women masturbate at one time or another. If you believe that God created humankind he did so....... so that mankind could populate. The desires you feel are natural. Consider it a gift from God. For those of us who feel that evolution was at work everything that lives on this plant has the same biological need.

Having said that you might want to start with light petting and then perhaps heavy petting but preferably not with a JW girl as it may become a guilt issue with Elders involved or pregnancy if things go too far. Mutual Masturbation can also be considered safe sex.

Free to sin but still cannot bring myself to do it

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