Perry you have asserted that prof Tours, one of the top ten chemists on the world has requested a personal meeting with me and that you will fund the trip.
Is this accurate or are you lying for Jesus?
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Fairlane
@cofty... if Perry is true to his word, would you be up for it ? If so record audio/ video all meetings and discussion in order that Perry would be left in no doubt about evidence and conclusions. Can't wait to see how this pans out.....although in all probability he's lying for jesus.
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WhatshallIcallmyself
I think this Professor has set things up so that if you cannot answer everything then he feels there is no reason to accept evolution. That's not honest and is certainly not a trait one would expect from someone who is a professor...
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WhatshallIcallmyself
"How is that different than what we all did with the WT's "research" at one time?" - Perry
Perry this is yet another one of those comments from you that demonstrates your utter lack of knowledge on these subjects... Why?
The reason is that someone who accepts the consensus of the scientific community and communicates that with other people (like Cofty does) is standing on the shoulders of many a scientist who has either researched these topics directly or cross referenced the original research with their own related research or been given insight to their own fields of research in unrelated fields (from reading or hearing about the original research) or has simply read the research and agreed that the methods used allow for the conclusions given.
Whereas the WTBTS literature is sourced from 1 source: the Governing Body. There is no review process involved to ensure that you are getting an accurate portrayal of the 'facts' they have given you.
Also Cofty makes the valid point that if this chemistry professor really wants to learn (rather than simply engage in logical fallacies) they would speak to the relevant researchers. This ploy to ask him to speak to this professor smacks of Kent Hovind's challenge to prove evolution. Hovind set the list of what he considers to be evidence in such a way as to make the challenge impossible. So on the surface it appears a reasonable proposition (and is touted as such by people like you) but when you look at it you see it is dishonest. This professor is the same because he expects to have all his questions answered rather than discuss all the evidence for evolution (why can't this professor explain what all the evidence shows if evolution is not true).
However, it is quite clear that these challenges are not meant to be legitimate ways of getting to the truth but rather quite clever ways of keeping people like yourself riding high on your wave of theological truths. I'm also sure that it doesn't harm their book and DVD sales either...
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WhatshallIcallmyself
"Me thinks "theory" is the right word and it was applied correctly" - Nimble Duck
Do you think that may be because you are not aware that words have different definitions in science and other specialist fields. Have a look at this word: nomenclature. Google it...
After that google supposition...
Then look up what or means.
Are you a Perry clone? He always shoots himself in the foot with his links too!
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Satan
I stopped coming here a year ago, just came back, I still can't believe we have dishonest people like Perry spamming every thread about evolution with repetitive, logically contradictory and unfounded comments.
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Nimble duck
Perry, you are wasting your time with these people. Just read the stuff "Saename" posts. You want to try to reason with that?
They hurl insults. They throw pseudoscience BS in your face. They write posts that fold in on themselves and then when you question their spin they tell you that you are stupid and act like babies.
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Nimble duck
WhatshallIcallmyself 5 hours ago
"Me thinks "theory" is the right word and it was applied correctly" - Nimble Duck
Do you think that may be because you are not aware that words have different definitions in science and other specialist fields. Have a look at this word: nomenclature. Google it...
After that google supposition...
Then look up what or means.
or1ôr/conjunctionconjunction: or- 1.used to link alternatives."a cup of tea or coffee"
- 2.introducing a synonym or explanation of a preceding word or phrase."the espionage novel, or, as it is known in the trade, the thriller"
- 3.otherwise (used to introduce the consequences of something not being done or not being the case)."hurry up, or you'll miss it all"
- 4.introducing an afterthought, usually in the form of a question."John's indifference—or was it?—left her unsettled"
- 5.literaryeither."to love is the one way to know or God or man"
sup·po·si·tionˌsəpəˈziSH(ə)n/nounnoun: supposition; plural noun: suppositionsan uncertain belief."they were working on the supposition that his death was murder"synonyms:belief, surmise, idea, notion, suspicion, conjecture, speculation, inference, theory, hypothesis, postulation, guess, feeling, hunch, assumption, presumption"her supposition is based on previous results"So evolution is a theory OR supposition. Take your pick. Either way, it's BS -
Satan
Nimble duck, who exactly is insulting you?
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Perry
They hurl insults. They throw pseudoscience BS in your face. They write posts that fold in on themselves and then when you question their spin they tell you that you are stupid and act like babies.
That is true. But to be fair, we all used to engage in that kind of behavior to one degree or another when we were Witnesses. Some people are just "evolving" more slowly than others.
We had absolutely ZERO education in sound biblical doctrine, yet we went to people's doors and acted so cock sure of ourselves. When they said anything about heaven, we railed on them about the "paradise earth" and regarded them as ignorant, uneducated, sappy silly-headed buffoons.
We never even paused for a moment to consider that ALL CHRISTIANS already believed in a paradise earth.....they just call it the Millennium Reign instead.
We all signed on to someone else' research and bought it hook line and sinker because it "had the ring of truth" as my father used to say.
Cofty has simply drilled out of one prison cell into another one. He miscalculated and bored through the wrong wall. He is inside of another illusion based on someone else's research, Why? Because he has no formal scientific education himself to perform his own tests. It is a familiar environment for him. It just feels right to him.
But Cofty has deeper issues than the average parroting ideologue. Virtually everyone including Bill Gates likens DNA to a code. The DNA code even has another code on top on the four letter one. Years ago I asked Cofty where did the code come from. He simply stated that it really wasn't a code, it just acted like one and looked like one. I guess that had the "ring of truth" to him. For Cofty, truth is not a concern, it is all about the semantics. Mind numbing.
Anyway, my offer still stands.
Cofty, if you change your mind, just IM me and I will call the professor and see if he is willing to make good on his offer to be educated by someone regarding evolution. This could be your chance to really make a name for yourself. (Not to mention get a free vacation out of the deal.)
I suspect that you wont mind a little audio/video right? Looks like some of your friends here are counting on you.
P. S. Are you going to tell us what you do for a living, or are you unemployed ?