If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible (page 2)

Diogenesister

The worst thing about the Phineas episode Moses approved is that the gentile woman he killed for marrying a Jew was a Midianite.

Guess what? Moses was married to a Midianite!Num 25.6

Jehovah can do no wrong because perfect is all his activity. That the way the true Jehovah Witness believer will view no matter how many dead bodies Jehovah tramples in a mighty display of his cruel power.

myelaine

dear Diogenesister...

Some life changing events happened between moses taking a midianite wife and the other guy taking a wife. Moses wife recognized the need for circumcision as a special sign of covenant which indicates that she had some desire to please God.

There is no indication in the text that the later midianite wife (or her israelite husband) had any desire to please God. Reading the progression of events suggests the israelite groom was guilty of the very things the gathered elders were lamenting at the moment, ie. being led astray by pagan culture, worshipping idols etc.

The way I see it, Phinehas was praised and rewarded based on his zeal for God, His commands and His righteous honor, not for killing. Likewise, in our justice system people don't praise an executioner for executing, the praise is in the fact justice is served.

michelle

Brokeback Watchtower

I wouldn't call them antigod because that phrase has a lot of assumptions about god that reflect a persons indoctrination about god and his personality.

Why should god always have to be good? Says who? A preacher? Blinders wearing person leading the blind?

As it is gods vary from person to person.

myelaine

Ah. So our perception of what is good doesn't square with some of bible God's actions/judgements therefore, some of these actions/judgements are in opposition to how we've been led to understand the biblical teaching, "God is good"?

Some of what the bible says about God is anti-"God is good".

venus

*Just like universe is made of 4% visible things and of 96% "dark matter and dark energy,"

*Just as our actions are done 5% consciously and 95 unconsciously,

Bible is also composed of both--few inspired verses and much of uninspired verses, most of which depicts God anthropomorphically. That means we can find some anti-God verses also in the Bible.

punkofnice

There will always be the spin doctors that say a verse means something that it patently doesn't say.

The book says, 'God will kill your first born for no reason.' The spin doctor says, 'It's a mis-translation. Should say, God will mow your front lawn in due season.'

It's all laughable nonsense if it hadn't caused the deaths of millions.

That goes for all the so called 'holy' books in this world.They are man made and not from a divine being.

It's a case of, don't think, just follow your leaders and give them money.

Ireneus

Moses himself chose a Medianite woman Zipporah (daughter of a pagan priest) and now praising Phinehaz for performing a double murder of a Jew and Medianite woman he chose. This shows Moses had no clarity on any subject which explains all the contradictions and confusions in first 5 books of the Bible. He also knew the potential of woman from his own wife Zipporah. She stayed true to her role as a woman who acted bravely and decisively, not one who is acted upon. She even showed better insight into spiritual matters and averted a disaster by acting promptly (by performing the act of circumcision on their son) thus saving Moses from being killed by Jehovah’s angel which ultimately helped the Israelites’ exodus from Egypt. Yet Moses left her behind before the exodus. This shows Moses formulating the Law in such a way that women are treated as property of men was a deliberate sin (against humanity?). Such religious leaders are the curse of humanity.

myelaine

dear punkofnice...

If our understanding of why God's actions/judgements were carried out is limited our perception of the goodness of God is skewed.

We read about how God sent out the israelite armies to destroy entire tribes. The other side is rarely explored in "bible study" but if it was it would illuminate the goodness in God's actions/judgements in sending out israelite armies.

We can ask ourselves, would destruction BE good if these other tribes DID pose a serious risk if left unchecked?

The backdrop we are given is that the tribes that the israelites went up against were the descendants of "the giants"...they were the hybrid offspring of fallen angels. The bible says that the first round of destruction was because the inclination of the heart of man was towards evil continually. What if they were truly evil, an evil that sought only to devour everything good in their path. We're told that that's what giants do (numbers 13:32-33). If that was true and the reason for the first destruction, then God's action WAS good as far as cleaning the slate (so to speak), wasn't it? Future limited destruction to stave off the problem of nephilim offspring would be considered judicious...good, wouldn't it?

Think about this: if you have no reservations about believing God is not good based on selected biblical accounts, you have unquestioning belief without evidence. Your bias is spinning the text your way, isn't it?

michelle

myelaine

dear Ireneus...

You said, "This shows Moses formulating the Law in such a way that women are treated as property of men was a deliberate sin (against humanity?). Such religious leaders are the curse of humanity."...

Ummm...your statement and conclusion based on IT shows you lack clarity yourself 😐 The notion of "property" implies value..."property" is an asset.

Btw...the biblical definition of sin IS violation of the law. (missing the mark of perfectly obeying it in action and thought)

Since love God and love your neighbour as yourself is a distillation of the law, how can obeying that law be a sin against humanity?

If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible

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