by DATA-DOG 70 Replies latest social current
One expert being censored is too many. Did you not see the above clip of the Doctors? Have you personally researched anything? You don’t have to, but don’t be insulting and use the “conspiracy” card if you don’t want to do any research for yourself.
Again, email Michael Yeadon..
DD
Whatever rogue virologists say is irrelevant, the basic concern was to stop the spread of the virus, what else is there to argue about ?.
Some people dont like their appointed governments in enforcing them to behave or restrict them, it inflicts opposition toward their god given freedoms, right DD ?
Lets say you yourself got caught with the virus and had it so bad you had to be taken to a hospital, but you eventually survived, would still have opposition to social restrictions and public mask wearing, maybe even vaccinations ?
Rouge virologists?? You know this how? You’ve done lots of research?
If I was seriously ill and had to be hospitalized because I fell into the relatively small group ( based on the world’s population) I still would not expect anyone else to be locked down, forced to wear a mask or face arrest, approve of mass censorship and propaganda.
If had to stop eating steak because my Doctor said one more by-pass surgery would kill me I wouldn’t demand that you do the same.
Saving face seems to be more of a priority for the Government.
DD
@rocketman: there is a difference between what the science says and what the government says. The government should be able to give advice, and the people should be able to choose whether to follow that advice.
If you’re worried about dying, wear a mask, if the mask helps, you have nothing to be worried about. If the mask, as has been proven, does absolutely nothing, a mandate is not going to improve its effectiveness.
As we’ve seen time and again, the mandates had the counterproductive effect. Because people don’t trust government and government is always the worst option because government can’t respond quickly and has no notion of unintended consequences.
For example the lockdowns, by locking down in the middle of summer, people were forced to stay inside longer and thus the virus spread more effectively through central airconditioning. Same with the masks, by forcing everyone to mask, there weren’t enough masks, so people got alternatives, which not only were proven to be not effective, some options like the neckscarf which the CDC recommended, turned out to amplify the problem if someone did sneeze. Besides that it gave people a false sense of security even though 99% of people do not know how to properly don masks and thus you had people with masks under their nose so people felt safe whilst they weren’t and others such as nurses, who train for over a year on proper mask wearing, were forced to work with actually infected people without a mask spreading the virus faster, while 99.9% of the population was not infected improperly wearing a pointless mask when they were in contact with people that were neither infected nor capable of spreading the disease.
Government is almost never the solution to any problem.
Some people are pissed that they have to do this for around 1% of the population but its about being empathic toward community responsibility.
Hence the intent to social restrictions
Actually, thinking that the virus is about 1% of the population, shows a lack of empathy for the 99% of the population that will also be affected, in one way or another by the Covid virus.
Not ONE Person out of almost 8 billion is immune from the effects of the virus. The medical part is just one of the side effects of the virus. There are other ways the virus is deadly that shouldn’t be overlooked.
There are over a hundred different ways that the virus can become deadly to the rest of society besides the elderly and those with some type of medical condition.
I’ll name just ONE that has nothing to do with catching the virus, yet can be deadly and cause a death.
Last year a few months after Covid started, several Medical Organizations warned the governments that
locking down the entire economy would create a spike in suicides among ------young children and young couples.
British Medical Association said;
Quote; Widely reported studies modelling the effect of the covid-19 pandemic on suicide rates predicted increases ranging from 1% to 145%,6 largely reflecting variation in underlying assumptions. Particular emphasis has been given to the effect of the pandemic on children and young people.
The National Library of Medicine warned the governments
Quote; The COVID-19 crisis may increase suicide rates during and after the pandemic. Mental health consequences of the COVID-19 crisis including suicidal behavior are likely to be present for a long time and peak later than the actual pandemic
https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352
a new report by The Well Being Trust found that 75,000 additional people could die from what they called “deaths of despair,” (which include suicide and substance use) because of Covid-19.
The research has been clear on this one for years: isolation and loneliness is bad for our health—both physical and mental. According to a meta-analysis co-authored by Julianne Holt-Lunstad, PhD, a professor of psychology and neuroscience at Brigham Young University, lack of social connection heightens health risks as much as smoking three-quarters of a pack of cigarettes a day…every day. “
There is robust evidence that social isolation and loneliness significantly increase risk for premature mortality, and the magnitude of the risk exceeds that of many leading health indicators,” Holt Lunstad says.
https://www.psycom.net/covid-19-suicide-rates
Do you know how many people have committed suicide as the result of LOCKDOWN- World-Wide?
It’s more that 3 million which is the amount of people that have died of Covid WORLDWIDE.
And people are still committing suicide because of Covid-----and there is no Vaccine for that.
You can’t solve complex world problems with “Simple Solutions”
who train for over a year on proper mask wearing, were forced to work with actually infected people without a mask spreading the virus faster, while 99.9% of the population was not infected improperly wearing a pointless mask when they were in contact with people that were neither infected nor capable of spreading the disease.
You pretty much lost the argument there AM
Really come on ?
The intent by the governments was to curd the spread and transmission of the virus.
The way that was accomplished was to block close social interactions and mask wearing when in close contact, without doing that the consequences otherwise proved to be dire on various levels.
This virus has made certain areas really contagious and bad, for example in Ontario Canada the cases have grown so high recently many hospitals had to stop common surgeries just so the doctors and nurses can treat Covid patients.
Notsurewheretogo,
How do you know those very sites you mentioned aren’t the people Michael Yeadon mentions as the ones twisting the facts and lying themselves?
Why don’t you contact him?
DD
Conspiracy theories...gotta love
You can’t solve complex world problems with “Simple Solutions”
According to the simpletons providing the "Simple Solutions" you can, and those "Simpletons Simple Solutions" will be worship-fully followed by Simpleton Sheep incapable of thinking for themselves while bleating that they are somehow the betters of those who do exercise self-determination. IMO
The intent by the governments was to curd the spread and transmission of the virus.
Wrong! The intent of the governments was NEVER safety, it was always about control. You do not lock-down the healthy, you quarantine the sick. You do not put the elderly in with infected for safety. Even a ex-JW knows that, or should.
Those dam governments impose social restrictions so the Covid virus wouldn't spread as much effecting people who some actually die ....... Dam them
