Austria Begins Closing Mosques and Deporting Imams

by cofty 69 Replies latest social current

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  humbled

  I will sound like a broken record for saying this again:

  Trevor Phillips has been at work in the U.K. with immigration. He recognized that left alone Muslims largely do not assimilate into progressive values of western countries. He writes and speaks on this subject with practical solutions that can be implemented in local communities.

  Also—This expulsion of non- compliant imams on the basis of a reasonable law ( of three years standing!) is not outrageous. The peaceful contingent of Muslims at Finsbury Park Mosque in the UK welcomed the authorities who helped deport the radical cleric that stirred trouble for them.

  Austria bears watching lest this law be badly done but countries must keep the peace for the good of everyone. Including peaceful progressive Muslims
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  _Morpheus

  Including peaceful progressive Muslims...

  hmmm.... that sounds like a rare breed of cat. Where would one find that species?
  
  
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  TD

  Out of curiosity, why would you say germany is running out patience? Merkle has welcomed the islamists...

  German police and special forces have conducted a number of raids in Islamic suburbs in the last six months or so. Arms and explosives have been seized and arrests have been made including at least one Syrian terrorist.

  To understand how this affects public perception, you have to understand the near-fetish most Germans have for law and order. You don't J-walk in Germany; somebody's grandmother will shake her finger at you and say „Nein! Bei Rot musst du stehn. Bei Grün kannst du gehen." There's a humorous and (by our standards) utterly macabre children's book where a rotten little girl named Lola Rast refuses to stop her Laufenrad at a red light and gets flattened by a truck.

  Like I said, their hospitality was extended with the expectation that the refugees would spread out and assimilate; not congregate into no-go zones
  
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  humbled

  hmmm.... that sounds like a rare breed of cat. Where would one find that species? —Morpheus

  Among Muslim women for one. I have posted interviews with dissident Muslim women who risk their lives to embrace the same values we westerners enjoy.

  https://www.npr.org/2018/05/30/615457127/exiled-journalist-continues-to-fight-for-womens-rights-in-iran
  

  I will repost the data-filled documentary made by face to face interviews with Britain’s Muslims by Trevor Philips that gives some insight into why there must be focused programs to undo this insular pattern of Islamic culture. Because there is only a minority of progressive minded Muslims they will never be able to turn the tide without the government working on the problem.

  https://youtu.be/xQcSvBsU-FM
  
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  Acluetofindtheuser

  Is it true? If someone converts to Islam you are given an Islamic sounding name? I found out while visiting a Muslim country that this was the case. Why can't the leadership be happy with the name they already have? My sources say, the name change is for other Muslim followers to know who to rat on when someone disobeys the Quran. Does this sound familiar? You're not speaking the pure language.
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  _Morpheus

  Td, thats interesting. The situation has progressed into a pretty bad state, especially given the german obession with law and order.

  
  
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  waton

  Td, thats interesting. The situation has progressed into a pretty bad state, especially given the german obession with law and order.

  Ha ha now that is really funny, yeah, the germans are so obsessed with law and order they will not prosecute a criminal fully, that has no fixed address, will not coordinate their eco migrant system, so claimants can have to up to 14 different accounts under different names in different jurisdictions. ( even Canada does not want fingerprinting to pin down who these individuals really are), Germans ere so bent on the letter of the law they have not been able to complete their airport in Berlin (BER) for decades (counting the future). sad.
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  Simon

  Wait, what ... Austria? Austria? Not Australia?

  I could have sworn I read an article about this and it said Australia.

  So, I'm going to go with the "autocorrect" defence (a classic) or that Australia is now part of Europe because they are in the song contest which makes it a reasonable mistake. Anything but admit I need glasses ...
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  humbled

  Morpheus— Perhaps in-depth data and interviews with Muslims are too time consuming to consider in answering the question..where one might find that species of Muslim ( progressive).

  This is a short video showing in part the rough equivalent of a young PIMO Muslim woman who ardently and actively looks to sustain western values in partnership with non-Muslims as well.

  The following is from a town hall meeting after the bombing in Manchester. The panel is discussing the very matters of regulating extremism as the Austrian in the OP are dealing with. At 4 minutes the video is the girl and other commenter. Please do watch . It is highly relevant.

  https://youtu.be/Im6CD9yoF50
  
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  2+2=5

  Is it true? If someone converts to Islam you are given an Islamic sounding name?
  

  Muhammad Ali was born Cassius Clay.

  Yusuf Islam was Cat Stevens.