JWs Changing "Baptism Questions" Effective May 13?

snugglebunny

Just trying to find a reference to Jehovah's Organisation in the Scriptures. I'm struggling...

stillMS

So, they actually decided to get rid of mentioning 'Holy Spirit', thus giving a hint that the borg is no longer viewed as guided by the spirit? Am I getting it right?

As Geoffrey Jackson in the ARC put it - 'It would seem to be quite presumptuous...'

Where else the Borg's chariot will lead it to?

punkofnice

Blimey O'Rielly, they mentioned Jesus Christ. How did he slip the net and get included?

Biahi

StillMS, they ARE guided by the spirit...of MacAllens.

HiddenPimo

So are there other parts of this letter or directive? Surely it has been leaked.

Slidin Fast

This is by no means the first change. Does any one have the previous iteration(s) to hand. It would be interesting to compare.

blondie

No longer spirit-directed organization?

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017365?q=spirit-directed&p=sen

2017

Have you dedicated your life to Jehovah and symbolized your dedication by water baptism? If so, that is wonderful! Recall that on your baptism day, before eyewitnesses, you were asked whether you had dedicated yourself to Jehovah and understood that “your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization.” Your affirmative answers served as a public declaration of your unreserved dedication and showed that you were qualified for baptism as an ordained minister of Jehovah. You must have made Jehovah very happy!

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102014954?q=spirit-directed&p=sen

Organized to Do God's Will book (OD)

Baptisms are usually held at assemblies and conventions of Jehovah’s Witnesses. At the conclusion of the baptism talk, the speaker will ask the baptism candidates to stand and answer the following two questions in a loud voice:

1. On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

New? Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?

2. Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?

New? Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?

Affirmative answers to these questions constitute a “public declaration” by the baptism candidates that they have put faith in the ransom and have unreservedly dedicated themselves to Jehovah. (Rom. 10:9, 10) Baptism candidates will want to give prayerful thought to these questions in advance so that they can answer in harmony with their personal convictions.

tiki

Looks like the spirit has departed.......where did it go?

ToesUp

"2. Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?"

WT can not use this one anymore. Remember, they told the rank and file in a not so distant WT that they "are not inspired" so how can they be "spirit-directed?"

Interesting change. The uber's will just bob their heads in agreement, like they do every weird and bizzare "change." I mean "new light." lol