Review: 2019 Regional Convention

by neat blue dog 21 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • neat blue dog
    neat blue dog

    So here's some random highlights from the convention this year:

    In a couple of videos, they promote a very negative attitude about bettering yourself and taking career opportunities. For instance, in one video a boy is either getting a college offer or at a job fair, I can't remember exactly, but first he imagines getting better off financially, and then he turns around and imagines losing his money and losing his nice car. So he decides to forego it all together.

    Then a girl gets a job hosting a fashion TV show or web series or something like that, so she imagines herself being replaced during the second season, and turns it down. So basically the idea is: When opportunities come your way, be cynical and imagine a bad outcome, then you won't feel so bad turning it down for the sake of 'the kingdom'.

    In another ambition-killing move, the speaker says:

    'The world will tell you that you can be anything you want to be, to follow your dreams. Instead, let Jehovah dream for you."

    In other words, do what the org aka 'Jehovah' tells you to do. That's all you need.

    Then at another point in a talk the speaker says this:

    'Human ideas are often changed and updated. Why? Often because the advice was wrong or wasn't that great.'

    Seriously? Do they actually see the irony? JW stuff is updated literally ALL THE TIME . . . Is it for the same reason?

    During an hour+ long pre-recorded symposium, representatives from many countries were interviewed, and the whole time the Skype logo was shown onscreen. It makes me wonder if their was some sort of financial incentive.

    The Josiah movie, shown in two parts on two days, was actually pretty entertaining and had good production value, as they've been doing in recent years. After years of the GB refusing to admit the uncomfortable fact that the Prophetess Deborah was also a judge with authority even over, gulp, men, it was nice to see the Prophetess Huldah depicted onscreen, with the men going to consult her respectfully.

    Yet again, after the movie the chairman said he was 'pleased to announce the release' of the drama, everybody clapped, and not to tell anybody about it. I even heard chuckles in the audience at this point. WHEN will they realize this is a running joke by now? The drama is printed on the invitation. It isn't a surprise.

    During the last talk, as usual the cultyness is ramped up. In the pattern of recent years' videos about bunkers and the great tribulation, this year has one showing an Elder getting his house broken into by authorities, holding him at gunpoint and demanding the names of those in his congregation, and then fast forwarding past the rest of the GT showing him in the New System. Then the speaker runs through the history of the King of the North up until "Russia and its' allies".

    At my local convention, among the thousands there only less than 10 were baptized and all but one were children, one of them a boy who looked under 10. At the international convention we were tied into, tens of thousands attended, but only over a hundred were baptized.

    That's all I got, anybody else go?

  • nowwhat?
    nowwhat?

    Thanks for the Imput remember when they said a career at bethel

    was a career for life!

  • neat blue dog
    neat blue dog

    Yeah, life*

    *assuming Armageddon comes within 10 years

  • Spiral
    Spiral

    Neat Blue Dog, it's really disturbing to hear that the concept of NOT bettering yourself is now tied to the idea of "you'll fail anyway" or some similar feeling. Not just that you should be putting the kingdom first, but that you won't make it in the real world so give up before you even try.

    On another recent thread about how being raised in the cult caused permanent damage, this kind of thing was mentioned. People raised in high control groups often struggle with self-esteem. Now, the JWs have made it into dogma.

    Really creepy.

  • sir82
    sir82

    So, if I understand correctly....

    • You shouldn't work toward acquiring wealth, because there is a chance you might lose it later...
    • You shouldn't pursue a career, because there is a chance you could get fired....
    • You shouldn't listen to "human ideas" because the human who had the idea might later change his mind....

    But you should instead pursue "spiritual goals", where there is:

    • 0% chance you will acquire financial stability...
    • a 90% chance you'll get fired if you try to make Bethel a career...
    • and you should listen to the GB who have changed their minds more often "a girl changes clothes" (apologies to Katy Perry)....

    Got it. What a wonderfully inspiring message. I'm sure it was the "best assembly ever".

  • Sigfrid Mallozzi
    Sigfrid Mallozzi

    How does any of this tie into the theme, "Love Never Fails"? Oh, don't love yourself you are all losers.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Wow, I am glad I have missed all of the assemblies, conventions, meetings, funerals, weddings, special days, memorials, etc., over the last 20 years. Towards the end before I walked away from good, I used to write my comments on what I thought about what was being said, inoculating myself so not to be infected.

    The WT study articles are just a harangue against their members trying to gain control again, where is the love there?

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      a lengthy and aggressive speech.
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    1. 1.
      lecture (someone) at length in an aggressive and critical manner.
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  • HiddlesWife
    HiddlesWife

    During an hour+ long pre-recorded symposium, representatives from many countries were interviewed, and the whole time the Skype logo was shown onscreen. It makes me wonder if there was some sort of financial incentive.

    WT will NEVER provide any financial incentives to their parishioners. The greedy/selfish GB keeps all of the proceeds for themselves. They don't care about anyone's financial situations [probably laughs about the R&F (mainly the PIMIs) submitting donations and their poor status in life].

  • minimus
    minimus

    Can you say CULT? Really, it’s shameful to have ever been associated with them.

  • Spiral
    Spiral

    HiddlesWife: The greedy/selfish GB keeps all of the proceeds for themselves. They don't care about anyone's financial situations [probably laughs about the R&F (mainly the PIMIs) submitting donations and their poor status in life].


    THIS is one of the things that really bothers me. The pure selfishness of living a good life off the backs of other people, many who are poor and disadvantaged, partly because authority keeps them that way. The rich and entitled have no shame.
    But the other side of the coin is just as bothersome. People blindly following leaders who clearly do not have their best interest at heart, and never learning the lesson. Even paying to go to a brainwashing session designed to keep them in line. That is the definition of faithful JW publisher these days.
    Sad.
    So glad to be out of that CULT!

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