Hi Fukitol,
I agree to some extent "one's natural conscience and heart tells them is right versus wrong"...let me give you a little example of one's natural conscience which can be molded by one environment. I once was walking down the street & heard this Father tell his son...Son, now that's how you shoot a gun, the son was no older than 6 or 7 yrs. old. The son said, thanks dad. Then the father says, next I'll show you how to use a glock gun, son says, cool dad & so if someone gets me angry I can shoot them, dad says, that's right son, dad what about Sean, he gets me mad sometimes, I can shoot him. Dad say, No son, that's your brother. Now imagine growing up like that from a youth? That son's natural conscience is being trained not for good but for bad, & he may never know the difference because how he was raised.
I get where you are coming from, but not everyone comes from a loving, nurturing household...how do you show those qualities ? Many of you have been in the hall. Love is not natural for most witnesses. Some parents just raise their kids, no love no nurturing, because maybe they didn't have it either, so that trait passes on. So some go to church/hall or wherever & see some type of love & learn some type of love from the bible. The problem is not the bible, the problem is people who interpret the bible....Many on here say the WT says this the WT says that..but what did the bible say ?
I think many came to the org, looking for the loving parent they never had, & halls/churches provide some of that love. It starts from home. Why do we listen to man ? The bible says nothing about shunning, quitting your job to full time ministry, or rely on the congregation to support you, not to smoke not to drink, walk this way, talk this way, no short skirts & on & on...that's man interpretation of what they want, not what God wants. The OT, lots of killing & stuff, just so Jesus could make it thru the line of David. Now the NT, it's a love story....Jesus didn't do nothing, never gave a whole lot of rules, but his Dad/God did.
I get what everyone is saying, the bible could or could not be true, but it's man that messes up the message. Even it there isn't any God/Jesus, The Bible, wouldn't you like looking back on your life & you were a good person...
I became a witness because I liked what I was learning, even though I knew how to treat folks before I got there...I had good parents. I didn't have to join the org. to be patted on my back or look approval from man. To be honest the truth led me to the truth...& found out what man says, God never even thought it...We as humans can't be nice to one another so it's easier to set rules.
Example, many of the friends says that they can't even get a ride to and from places. But guess what ? Those same folks who don't give rides to people, will come to the hall, & put their slip in for AUX. Pioneering, HUH? So adding more hours to yourself is easier than giving someone a lift....No, it's not but that's how mean spirited some are.
For most witnesses they need to be witnesses it's the only power or recognition they have & they have gone too far. Most of them needs validation that they didn't get from home. They need to be seen, haven't figured out what gene that is LOL.
So I get what all of you are saying...Don't be mad at God....if you still believe but be angry with the org, & maybe a little at yourself, but forgive yourself for just not knowing. We know it's not right to shun or for families to be at odds with one another....No org., has the right....I read somewhere...folks can't drive you crazy if you don't give them the keys.
Some have to admit they loved being a witness and wore it as a badge of honor. In this life your family and friends are your support system. If a family member only wants to be with you because you are a witness but won't if you don't....What's that telling you ? I know it's hard when it comes to family to be shunned or ignored...but I think some folks would be that way even if they were even if they weren't in the org. The org. just gave them an excuse to be that way. Just like some never wanted to work, so, when they heard full time pioneer & God will help & so will your bros.& sis....that was music to their ears...they never wanted to work in the first place...We can't blame the org. for certain things nor can we blame the bible for some natural bad ways.
Again, I get what all of you are saying & I agree with some & not with others...I'm not against anyone here. I don't drink the kool-aide..because I know better.
So my original topic....You can't find truth no where but in yourself....Even if it hurts & you need to change.
Tor